Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BJP youth wing protest against Wikipedia's map of India


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. causa sui (talk) 17:45, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

BJP youth wing protest against Wikipedia's map of India

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The article describes a single protest (disclosure: I moved it from dispute to protest) rather than a dispute. If, at some point in the future, it moves up to the level of a dispute between wikipedia and the BJP, then we could legitimately have an article on that. But, since we don't know if this will have any lasting significance, the current article does not satisfy WP:EVENT. The only point of interest here is that the protest happened at a wikipedia conference and we shouldn't be navel gazing. regentspark (comment) 13:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete (as nom) --regentspark (comment) 13:55, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, this fails WP:EVENT. If we have an article on the Indian map controversy then merge any usable content there. As it is this is a news item more appropriate four our sister site Wikinews. --Errant (chat!) 15:17, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - nom's point pretty much agrees with what I've been saying since it was created, although there might be an argument for a single paragraph in Wiki Conference India recording that a protest took place (if that article survives it own AfD intact). - Sitush (talk) 15:22, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:EVENT. It has been three days and the story hasnt got any traction beyond the first days coverage. A single paragraph mention in the conference article would be enough.--Sodabottle (talk) 15:25, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and describe briefly in Wiki Conference India as suggested by Sitush and Sodabottle.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  16:46, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete It seems there has been some poor media reporting. As Sitush pointed out, The Economic Times has retracted their story, the BBC and the Daily Pioneer have made changes/reworded their stories. Zuggernaut (talk) 16:58, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's a one event protest, by 100 or so a very small number of BJP youth members, and doesn't appear to have attracted sufficient reliable source attention to achieve lasting notability -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:57, 21 November 2011 (UTC) Edit: It now looks like it was probably far fewer than 100 -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:08, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - per WP:EVENT, no brainer. ukexpat (talk) 19:54, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Or merge with Wiki Conference India. Nwlaw63 (talk) 20:22, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment There should be lots of stuff on various map disputes which have caused furors - including, but not limited to, a PRC postage stamp showing all of China in red -- except for Taiwan! The Chile and Argentina stamps showing conflicting Antactic claims, etc.  This article, however, is far too limited in scope dealing with a single event with a relatively small group of participants.  Cheers. Collect (talk) 23:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Rework and rename to an article on the Restricted Zone (India). While the article is too much bound to a single event, there is an encyclopedic topic hiding in there: the notion of a Restricted Zone that may not be depicted with a reasonable degree of accuracy. I could not find this described in any other article, perhaps because I did not know where to look, but I think simply because the content is not there. Given such an article, the protest might well be represented there by a paragraph or two. --Lambiam 00:31, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * See Kashmir dispute for Restricted Zone. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 18:24, 22 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - A local wiki-kerfuffle of negligible notability elsewhere. Handwaving "look-at-me!"-ism at its finest. Tarc (talk) 01:20, 22 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep It is too early to be able to decide that this is not of lasting value. There is nothing to suggest that the issue has come to an end. M W ℳ 02:55, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - transient news blown out of proportion. It might be worth mentioning it in some article (like Wiki Conference India) but not spend a separate article on it. Materialscientist (talk) 05:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete If there's anything notable, it should be on Wiki Conference India. This was a small protest without much notability or effect. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 10:23, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, or possibly merge selected content to Wiki Conference India. The probability of this one protest getting lasting coverage, having a significant impact or having an impact over a large area or population is virtually zero, so it doesn't satisfy WP:EVENT. Keeping the article would signify that events are notable simply because they relate to Wikipedia. Hut 8.5 14:59, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Does not seem to satisfy either WP:EVENT or WP:GNG. Salih  ( talk ) 15:35, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Wiki Conference India. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛  Talk Email 17:01, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Wiki Conference India, Kashmir_dispute (background section). Delete link, no redirect. Non-notable on its own. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 18:22, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Wiki Conference India Veryhuman (talk) 18:37, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Wiki Conference India. But it only needs about two sentences or so. Anything longer than a paragraph would be undue weight. Silver  seren C 19:14, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and develop instead a section on the mapping law in Jammu and Kashmir. This has affected other international publications ... the most recent issue of The Economist on my iPad has an article about water issues in South Asia, one of which is between India and Pakistan (surprise! What won't they fight about?) over the tributaries of the Indus in that region, and an accompanying map ... with a note from the editorial staff that the print version in India can, under Indian law, only depict the region as Indian rather than divided by the Line of Control. And it's not the first time this has happened, and the last time they ran an editorial about how silly this is several weeks later. Daniel Case (talk) 04:03, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - this matter is relevant to at least three distinct subjects, Wiki Conference India (2011), Jammu and Kashmir, Bharatiya Janata Yuva Morcha (a fourth might be Criminal Law Amendment Act (1961) and a fifth Censorship in India. Covering it in a central article seems sensible. Rich Farmbrough, 18:51, 23 November 2011 (UTC).


 * Comment - editors seem unaware that redirect and merge is a keep, and most delete editors seem to be proposing keeping some of the content, which might require attribution preserving. Rich Farmbrough, 18:55, 23 November 2011 (UTC).


 * I for one am not suggesting a redirect and merge. I am suggesting that there may be room for two or three sentences in another article, done from scratch. This article should be deleted for the reasons stated. BTW, I got "told off" for adding the Censorship in India category to the thing, although it seems pretty obvious to me. - Sitush (talk) 19:04, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think my main point was that if this is not considered suitable for an article, there should be a redirect - external places already link to this title for attribution at least. Whether the "two or three sentences" are done from scratch or GFDL attributed is pretty much secondary, although I would describe it as a merge in either case. Rich Farmbrough, 18:16, 29 November 2011 (UTC).


 * Rich, don't belittle the opinions of others; when I say "delete", I mean "delete". There are other ways to preserve attributions for GFDL concerns, such as how WP:BOOMERANG (see talk page) was preserved when the original incarnation was deleted. Tarc (talk) 21:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Makes no sense merging it, the article to be merged into is also under AfD. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 08:29, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it's clearly going to be kept -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:50, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Not belittling anyone, the boomerang you cite is, frankly, not that good though - I would have thought that sort of thing should be in extremisonly. Rich Farmbrough, 18:16, 29 November 2011 (UTC).


 * Keep as an article on the Indian map controversy - an article specifically discussing the impact of this 1961 law on maps covering the restricted zone. Cf. the other examples noted above affecting the Economist and other publications in India.  This is a notable part of life there, and cannot be easily merged into existing articles (Line of Control, Kashmir dispute, and the articles Rich notes above all should link to it). Details about the event at the conference should merge into the conference's article. – SJ +  22:08, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails NOT; no evidence that is of enduring notability. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 15:13, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.