Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BRIO - Publishing Made Simple


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. It's been a week with no new sourcing, and the supplied sources are iffy. There isn't a strong consensus to delete, but without the one event of the RAVEN controversy, it would be speedied as promotional.

BRIO (publishing company)
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Article about a company called BRIO publishing. Even after reading it several times i still cannot judge if this is a good, or a bad article. I am not fully assured that the article subject is notable, and the article has a self-published advertorial feeling. At the same time the referencing seems in order, and the article seems to obey WP:NPOV guidelines more or less. Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 19:09, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Neutral par being the nominator Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 19:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Neutral needs sourcing, suggest move to BRIO (publishing company). 136.181.195.10 (talk) 20:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Move to BRIO (publishing company) as suggested. And tag the article for cleanup and lack of reliable sources. While the article is fairly neutral, the title is blatantly promotional. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 20:36, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks like establishing notability might be difficult here - the first reference cited is a video clip purportedly aired on an Oxygen show, but its tone is so staggeringly promotional I can't believe it was editorially independent. The second is a press release, the third appears to be a blog post of unknown reliability. A Google search finds a smattering of local news stories which might be worth exploring. Having said all that, I'm prepared to give the article a chance since it was only created two hours ago. Gr1st (talk) 21:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, the page has been moved to a neutral title. Now what about the redirect created by the page move? RfD or speedy? --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 22:53, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Borderline case - "BRIO - Publishing Made Simple" might count as a misnomer as at WP:CSD. Gr1st (talk) 23:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Tagged it as a speedy. Its a promotional title so i doubt it needs to go the long way around. Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 23:04, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Toddst1 (talk) 23:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep well sourced and appears to be notable Frank Anchor  Talk to me  04:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - References deal more with RAVEN magazine than this company. Article is mostly advertising, with little to indicate how it is notable.  TN ‑ X - Man  12:45, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


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