Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bachelor of Physical Education


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Whether or not there's a procedural issue with scope, there is no case for deletion. If these are revisited I suggest a smaller batch within the same field and/or level. an MS in HR is very different to a BA in Phys Ed, for example. Star  Mississippi  00:58, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Bachelor of Physical Education

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This article should be deleted as it is not notable. I see very little discussion about the 'Bachelor of Physical Education' degree either on the article itself or elsewhere. There are thousands of fields of study out there; that does not mean each of them should have a corresponding 'Bachelor of...' page. This is different from degrees that are specialised, professional, or otherwise notable in such a way that warrants significant discussion on them, such as the Master of Business Administration or Bachelor of Civil Law. The current article is simply a bachelor's degree in a specific subject, does not warrant separate discussion other than what may be discussed about the subject of the training of the subject, and should therefore be deleted. Dawkin Verbier (talk) 08:58, 4 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I would also add that it would not be appropriate to discuss the training of physical education teachers under this article, as not all PE teachers actually receive this specific degree, and because the point of the article is on the degree in itself and not the training. It would be better to have a separate article like "Training of PE teachers" if that were the aim. I think this reasoning applies to the other nominated articles as well. Dawkin Verbier (talk) 09:19, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, I don't think it would be appropriate to redirect this article (or any of the ones nominated) to another one. I don't think they should be redirected to the specific field they include. Redirecting Bachelor of Physical Education to physical education, or Master of Business Engineering to business engineering would make the redirect to a page that does not actually address or cover the specific material of content that the first page would encompass. Dawkin Verbier (talk) 09:23, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following articles for deletion because of the same reasoning, and it seems quite clear that it would be unreasonable to list all of these degrees when each one of them are of little notability apart from the fact that they exist and are related to the two notable concepts of an academic degree and a field of study:

Dawkin Verbier (talk) 09:08, 4 October 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting. This is quite a bundled nomination and requires signficant discussion. I don't think it should be closed based on 2 or 3 editor's opinion of the nomination. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment it is down to the nominator to give policy based arguments for delete. Given that 'Batchelor of Physical Education' has a body of scholarly work specifically studying it as a named thing, I think it's a tough argument to make that it isn't notable. JMWt (talk) 08:23, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That publication appears to be from a publishing mill. Apart from a lack of WP:Notability, I think listing all of the possible degrees out there has to go against WP:DIRECTORY. Dawkin Verbier (talk) 10:10, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It may or may not be the case that the specific publication is not suitable for referencing within the article, but WP:NNC and I'm not trying to prove that is is notable. I'm just pointing out that you are not making any real argument that it isn't notable other than offering an opinion. JMWt (talk) 10:17, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not sure what you mean by this. Dawkin Verbier (talk) 02:32, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:27, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep I found 3 articles about this degree 1) malekipour, Ahmad, Rezvan Hakimzadeh, Marzieh Dehghani, and Mohmad Reza Zali. 2018. “Analysis of Entrepreneurial Competency Training in the Curriculum of Bachelor of Physical Education in Universities in Iran.” Cogent Education 5 (1). 2) The Times of India 2012, ‘Bachelor of Physical Education teachers association meets CM’, 4 April, viewed 20 October 2022, 3) Legge, M 2015, ‘Planting seeds to honour the Treaty: “E Noho Marae” in the Bachelor of Physical Education at the University of Auckland 2015’, Physical Educator - Journal of Physical Education New Zealand, vol. 48, no. 2, pp. 17–18. I note that these are all Southern Hemisphere sources. I cannot agree to keep or delete all of the articles listed. I would suggest that they be analyzed and brought to AFD separately, and not all at once ;-). Lamona (talk) 00:59, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd argue by WP:SUSTAINED that this coverage is not enough, and even if it was, it revolves around the training of PE teachers and not on a specific degree course. On the second point, I think it would fail WP:SIGCOV as the studies only analyse the bachelor's degree from an educational perspective, mentioning the actual Bachelor of Physical Education as representative of the degrees offerred by the universities of the countries. This is similar to how different countries have different names for engineering degrees (BEng, BA (Eng), BSc (Eng), BS etc.), but not all of these should have their separate articles even if they are mentioned in academic coverage. Dawkin Verbier (talk) 02:50, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Procedural keep all and Keep Bachelor of Physical Education for passing WP:SIGCOV. Given that sources have been found for the Bachelor of Physical Education to pass GNG; we can't possibly go through every single one of these articles individually to do the same and build a community consensus on each one in one conversation. That's impractical for building community consensus; and frankly there is low participation here because it is too complex of a bundled nomination. As such, this should be a procedural close for all of the other articles and a keep for the Bachelor of Physical Education for passing SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 16:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.