Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bacio Divino


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Jayjg (talk) 04:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Bacio Divino

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Young winery that does not appear to meet the criteria for inclusion specified in Notability and WP:CORP, as well as WP:WINERY. Coverage in Wine Spectator, which reviews thousands of wineries as a primary purpose, is insufficient to establish notability. If a specific wine is notable, the associated winery does not automatically inherit notability sufficient for an article according to WP:NOTINHERITED.

Article was prodded and deleted, then restored after author appealed at Deletion review. The deletion review rationale centered around Robert Parker ratings for specific wines. Again, see WP:NOTINHERITED. ~Amatulić (talk) 19:33, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wine-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:59, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 02:40, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment from author: Hello - I'm working to try to meet your content standards and have reviewed the "notability" guidelines. Not sure that I understand in this case. I am happy to provide more examples of Bacio Divino's wines and their rankings in industry publications. Can you explain more, why compared with other wineries that are on Wikipedia, you are asking to delete here? Appreciate any help you can offer. Auher (talk) 19:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC) — Auher (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete Sorry, but this winery has not achieved the "significant coverage in independent reliable sources" that are required for notability. Pretty much all wines get mentioned in Wine Spectator at one time or another, and that is all the recognition this winery has achieved. Auher, I appreciate your efforts, but no amount of rewriting (the article currently reads like an ad) is going to make this winery notable. The criteria here are tough; I once had to fight hard to retain an article about the winery which produces the best-selling red wine in the United States. The criteria have to be tough, because there are literally thousands of wineries; only the ones that receive significant recognition from the wider press (not just wine industry publications) are included here. --MelanieN (talk) 13:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete - as per MelanieN, I cant see any ref's that show coverage outside specialist wine publications, fails WP:CORP.Codf1977 (talk) 11:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Plenty of references, from publications from around the world. Geo Swan (talk) 18:49, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ...all of which appear to be trivial mentions. I looked, myself, before proposing this AfD. WP:SIGCOV has not been met. ~Amatulić (talk) 19:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.