Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Backup MyPC


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. —  Aitias  // discussion 22:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Backup MyPC

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non-notable software. The article seems designed ('Due to changes in both product and company names, this article may help customers still holding a version of BackUp MyPC, or who formerly used Backup Exec Desktop locate the successor product PC BackUp and the current company that distributes PC BackUp.') to be a help manual rather than an article, and the only claims to notability are ridden with OR ('Backup MyPC is believed by the author of this article to have originated as the desktop version of Backup Exec.' for example). Ironholds (talk) 13:08, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong delete per nomination - WP:OR and fails WP:N. See also creator's rationale for creating the article explained at Help_desk. ukexpat (talk) 14:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Doesn't show notability per WP:NOTABILITY. Schuy m 1  ( talk ) 17:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: per nom. Tracking the ownership and/or name changes of a relatively obscure piece of software, through WP:SYNTH & outright WP:OR is WP:NOT within the purview of Wikipedia. HrafnTalkStalk 10:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Next steps?
I would still like contribute this information (this product name, which is part of the history of two other products) if not in the form of a separate article.

I would like to avoid, however, adding this information as part of the history of the current product, for which I would need to add an article, and of its predecessor Backup Exec, which is already present, and then have that article and edits to Backup Exec also be rejected.

I didn't have any comments or problems with a few previous contributions I made, so this review process is new to me.

One member was kind enough to reply in an area I found through 'Help' and that led me to this page as the correct place to discuss this article.

I only added the rationale for the article within the article in response to the proposed deletion, and would otherwise not have put in those sentences, but they seem to have created additional objections.

I understand those objections as well, but as you can see, am having some difficulty understanding where best to include this information. I certainly see information in WikiPedia about defunct companies that were related to current products and companies, just as Backup MyPC is a defunct product related to current products and companies.

CornanTheIowan (talk) 11:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The crucial thing to have in this sort of situation to avoid deletion is reliable, third-party sources. If you can find those then the information will probably be kept if you include it as part of the history of Backup Exec. Ironholds (talk) 11:20, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I've now rewritten the article almost completely. While the information in this article was difficult to find originally (predecessor and successor products and companies), once I knew all those names it was easier to find references.


 * I'm not sure if I will be able to find Internet citations for every detail, the all the major events are now covered with external references.


 * CornanTheIowan (talk) 14:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

(finished editing)
I'm ready for further review. Backup MyPC has in fact a long history beginning as Veritas Backup Exec Desktop and extending up to the present, though in my first revision I had yet to pull together the most recent pieces of its history.

I may add one more reference to Backup MyPC's use as an OEM backup tool on recent / current Hewlett-Packard computers, but I'm not satisfied with the citation I could provide yet.

Other than that, I'm open to further input and review and hope that I can share this history at WikiPedia. As with other reference articles, its purpose is to bring together information that would otherwise take visitors some time to collate from multiple sources, just as it did for me.

CornanTheIowan (talk) 11:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


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