Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Backwaters Press


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Randykitty (talk) 11:36, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Backwaters Press

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Minor small press. Fails WP:GNG Theroadislong (talk) 18:39, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. I found no evidence of reliable, independent sources that cover this press in any detail. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 23:49, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
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I clearly vote to Keep. Clearly this press is important as seen by the Nebraska Arts Council (whose mission is to cultivate the literary arts in Nebraska) as evidenced by their numerous awards to them. This press successfully balances a mission that supports his state's artistic and cultural goals, while reaching out to the larger, national literary community by publishing significant authors as recognized by the national literary community. It also publishes new and emerging authors and fosters the literary arts in Nebraska and throughout the region. If there is an issue here of finding secondary sources, it is only because poetry and literary don't often "make the news," but that does not mean that literary culture is not notable within the community. The Backwaters Press is without a doubt notable to all authors within Nebraska and surrounding areas and to anyone who cares about the literary community and traditions of the Great Plains. Not only is Backwaters Press notable in itself. It is notable for serving an important cultural mission. Please keep this entry. Thank you.Edward Dixon (talk) 04:21, 21 August 2015 (UTC)Edward Dixon
 * Notable in Wikipedia terms, means "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice." Wikipedia bases its decision about whether an organization is notable enough to justify a separate article on the verifiable evidence that the organization or product has attracted the notice of reliable sources unrelated to the organization or product. Theroadislong (talk) 12:23, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
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Please note the recent addition of added content and a citation by Project Muse which I submit provides secondary sourcing and verifiable evidence of the notability of this press. Thank you. Edward Dixon (talk) 19:05, 26 August 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:27, 27 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - not finding enough significant coverage in searches for reliable independent sources. The listings with Nebraska Arts Council and Project Muse are a start, but do not reach the notability threshold.  More significant coverage needed.  --  1Wiki8 Q5G7FviTHBac3dx8HhdNYwDVstR  (talk) 12:17, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep What is a poetry press?  Is it to be judged by WP:ORG?   Or by  WP:CREATIVE. I argue for something more like the  later.   (and, yes, I am aware of WP:NOTINHERITED)  My argument here is that for a small literary press, notability is produced and measured by the ability of that press to select, edit and produce notable works.  This article is largely sourced with articles about the awards its books have won.  I believe that the fact that it has been so successful in choosing and producing notable books, should persuade us to keep this article.  Back to reality and the standard criteria for a keep.  This award  along with material from the Nebraska Arts Council and Project Muse are persuasive.  Along with the fact that the founding editor of the press is a writer of independent notability  Who should probably have an  an article, too.
 * Plus I did a little sourcing.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:14, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep based on the limited sourcing that suggests it's a culturally significant entity in Nebraska; I'd feel more strongly about this if we could turn up some sort of newspaper article or other RS with more direct and substantive information about the press. --Arxiloxos (talk) 14:56, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk  19:29, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


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