Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bad Apple!!


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There were reasonable arguments for notability being met (through different guidelines) and for it not (specific criteria and sourcing). Due to the Weak Keep I originally viewed it as a being either a No Consensus or Keep, however, the original nominator is primarily encouraging a merge, so a Keep appears reasonable. A merge discussion can be triggered if still desired. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:11, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Bad Apple!!

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I don't believe that this meets WP:NOTE; it basically serves as a collection of hardware port videos for the Alstroemeria cover. I think that a merge with "Touhou_Project#Reception_and_fanworks" would be more appropriate. — Goszei (talk) 08:04, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:41, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak Keep seems to be passing wp:gng, although wp:cleanup can be done.Shubhi89 (talk) 11:57, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment (biased here having done the research that lead to the article). Not sure why this is categorised under AfD/Music; it's perhaps better suited for Afd/Technology—the topic of the article is notable because of the gradual evolution and the ultimate wider-scale use in the 2010s as a test source for under-powered computing platforms.  The article nonetheless follows the chronological development from (1) obscure 1997-game chiptune in Japan; (2) 2007-pop remix; (3) 2009-independently/collaboratively developed shadow puppet animation; (4) 2010s the use of (2) + (3) together as the basis for computer/engineering audiovisual test material.  At the risk of being shot down for comparisons; Lena Forsén + the Leena test image developed over time as well—a model in a male-centric magazine centerfold might not by itself notable; it is what followed over the next decades that *received* notability.  There appears to be more material around Bad Apple!!; but it's slow going, as quite a bit is in Japanese; and the only other pre-existing Wikipedia article was in Chinese (zh:Bad Apple!!).  What would be useful is clear feedback as what could be expanded/improved (with sources); rather than a jumping to AfD because somewhere the page happens discusses the contextual origins as a game theme and pop song. TL;DR, if reviewing this article and it had been authored by somebody else (not me), it would be Keep.  —Sladen (talk) 13:34, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:58, 28 December 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - Passes WP:NALBUM, not strongly but I think there's merit in the article and a bit of effort into the article would improve it. eeveeman (talk) 18:37, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not meet WP:NSONG (NALBUM is for albums, which this is not, and it does not meet that criteria) as it did not chart, has not been nominated for any significant awards and certainly not covered in any way by significant artists. GNG easily fails as none the sources are reliable: blogs, open wikis, and SPSs. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:39, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:17, 5 January 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:41, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Sladen's reasoning. Even if notable as an individual song (I didn't realize awards were necessary to establish notability), it's notable as an Internet phenomenon.--WaltCip (talk) 16:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.