Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bagatelle restaurant


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The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 02:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Bagatelle restaurant

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Doesn't appear notable. Single reference doesn't point anywhere. Claim of Michelin star without citation. Kickstart70 T C 04:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per this Google News Archive search, which returns results from The New York Times, Miami Herald, Financial Gazette, and Sunday Mercury. See also this Google Books search, which returns plenty of results about this restaurant. The claim about the Michelin star is now cited: See this and this. Cunard (talk) 05:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note that there are many (MANY!) restaurants with this name, and while some of what you linked to may show notability for that particular restaurant, the Afd is for a specific restaurant in Oslo Norway. -- Kickstart70 T C 06:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You're right about the invalid refs I have cited above. I've struck them out. I still say keep because of the extensive coverage this restaurant has received in many different reliable sources from books to news websites to traveling websites to dinner guides. Look at this Google News Archive search about this restaurant. There are many notable mentions of this restaurant and its chefs. This restaurant has received several reviews from traveling books, including Frommer's Norway, Laponie, and Oslo und Umgebung. DuMont direkt. This is an extensive review of Bagatelle Restaurant which states that it has received two stars from the Michelin Guide since 1993. Also, note this sentence in the article: "Today, there are a total of six restaurants in Oslo with awards in the form of Michelin stars, but it is only Bagatelle that offers two." That's pretty notable. There are also other online reviews about this restaurant, including VisitNorway.com, VisitOslo.net, After Hours Magazine, and Baysider.com. See page 28 of this magazine article, which says that Bagatelle received a lot of press when Nicolás Catena, "one of Argentina's leading wine producers," visited this restaurant. Also, the royal wedding of Benedikte Ferner, the daughter of Princess Astrid of Norway was celebrated at Bagatelle restaurant. Here's some news about the restaurant's owner. In addition to this and this which I mentioned above, page 11 of this link, this, this, and this are other reliable sources which say that Bagatelle has two stars in the Michelin Guide. This is restaurant is definitely notable. Cunard (talk) 08:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Bagatelle has been downgraded to one-star (see references below), but it has verifiably been a two-star restaurant, and subject to more media coverage than any other Norwegian restaurant I can think of. Sjakkalle (Check!)  09:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. This is a well-known Norwegian restaurant, due to the two stars in the Michelin guide, the most any restaurant in Norway has ever had; I would guess a review like that is already "non-trivial coverage". There is plenty of independent coverage of the restaurant in independent media anyway,, , , , and this one in English related to Bagatelle being downgraded to one-star. Although Bagatelle itself does not have an entry in Store norske leksikon it is mentioned since its chief cook Eyvind Hellstrøm, and the kitchen chief Terje Næss both have entries. Sjakkalle (Check!)  09:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Norway-related deletion discussions.   —Cunard (talk) 09:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions.   —Cunard (talk) 09:25, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep highly notable restaurant domestically (personally I have no interest for cuisine or restaurants, and never been to it, but I have still heard of it). This search with Norwegian seach engine Sesam finds 22 news hits for "Bagatelle restaurant" and this search in the same news search engine finds 352 hits, without the "s, of which the top eight all refer to the restaurant in question, and all are published within the last week, including in several of the largest national newspapers. Arsenikk (talk)  11:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as a notable restaurant run by a notable chef. --Lockley (talk) 21:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per above reasons, probably move to Bagatelle (restaurant). Punkmorten (talk) 21:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Any Michelin starred restaurant will have had plenty of coverage in reliable sources, and there's no real need to provide an explicit reference in the article for it having a star - it's pretty obvious that that is verifiable from the Michelin Guide. Phil Bridger (talk) 13:57, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


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