Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bagh Saba Synagogue


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Arguments for keeping the page revolve around the uniqueness of its existence in Tehran, but this is a) not a factor in determining notability on en-wiki and b) thrown into doubt by Pontificalibus source and the fact that we have a list of synagogues in Tehran. No policy-based arguments have been offered for keeping the article, but several commentators have pointed to the lack of sources, which is a policy-based reason for deletion. No prejudice to recreation if more sources can be provided. Yunshui 雲 水 09:23, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Bagh Saba Synagogue

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One single source, lacks any notability as far as I can tell. Being a synogogue in Tehran is not exactly notable by itself. Theprussian (talk) 14:24, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep. On the contrary, although perhaps being a synagogue in the continental USA would not be notable in and of itself; however, being a synagogue in Tehran most certainly is notable.
 * I certainly feel that myself and others from this community would greatly like to know of this wonderful institution's existence. We need to keep this here at Wikipedia. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:12, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Being a functioning synagogue in Tehran in the Islamic Republic of Iran is exactly what is notable. The sourcing is adequate but can be improved. Alansohn (talk) 17:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep for reasons discussed by above editors Postcard Cathy (talk) 17:57, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The fact that there is only one source in the article is a sign that more sources should be sought, but does not mean by itself that there are no more sources, which would cast doubt on notability. I agree with previous editors that this synagogue would probably be notable because of its location alone. Apart from other reasons it may be notable. Debresser (talk) 19:16, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The discussion is somewhat balanced in a numbers sense, and the Keep !voters are *partially* (but specifically not entirely) making an IAR-esk reasoning, which has been disputed. Between them, further discussion seems warranted
 * Comment The keep votes above assume an inherent notability for being a synagogue in Iran. However this source states there are more than forty synagogues in Tehran, so this reasoning appears flawed. Sources to satisfy WP:NBUILD and/or WP:ORG are needed.Pontificalibus 13:23, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * So, this article is now clearly in breach of WP:Notability, this in my view is grounds for deletion.Theprussian (talk) 13:41, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Snow Keep. For the reasons discussed above by all editors, combined. 2604:2000:E010:1100:C813:882A:A64C:761D (talk) 00:02, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails general notability guidelines. I did my due diligence and failed to find reliable secondary sources in Hebrew and English, and didn't see much in Arabic (but that could use another review by an Arabic speaker) and did not see anything but passing mentions. I did learn (from a non-NPOV blog post in The Times of Israel) it was built in 1951, but, that's about it. Everything else is a self-published source or a passing mention on an event taking place there. Missvain (talk) 19:49, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 00:20, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep--More than enough third-party sources to prove notability on the Persian language wikipedia article about the same synagogue: . It is ironic that the English-speaking world is looking at to reducing the number of blue links on List_of_synagogues_in_Iran, while the equivalent page in the Persian wikipedia is willing to keep them.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 01:48, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete- Pls note each sister (different languages) Wikimedia site has it own guidelines and operates independent from each other. For English Wikipedia notability is based on the content is supported by significant coverage by independent, reliable sources where by the sources talk about the subject in length and in depth and not passing mentioned. Sources can be in any languages. The editors who voted keep have not yet present how the subject pass notability guidelines here and no sources independent reliable sources currently are found to support the content claimed at least in EN.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:23, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Since this is in Tehran, I would think a search for Farsi sourcing would be needed. On the other hand religious buildigns are not default notable, we need to find actual sourcign to justify having the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.