Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bahador Kharazmi (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Black Kite (talk) 11:10, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Bahador Kharazmi
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WP:N, deleted on Persian Wikipedia already Ladsgroupoverleg 18:46, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:08, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:08, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

WP:IRS Notable - This person is presumed to be notable as he has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. On The Huffington Post he has been interviewed and featured as the Prince of the underground for his considerable contribution to shape the underground music in Iran. On BBC Persian Television he has been interviewed and recognized as one of the early contributors to establish the underground music movement in Iran. On 7shanbeh B.B.C Radio Program, focused on featuring pop music hits of the week, he has been the main headliner of the show. . Bahador has also made it to the top 10 contestants of TehranAvenue, a popular platform for presenting the underground music producers in Iran, back in late 90's. Bahador has released his albums and singles under a major Iranian music label in the United States, Avang Music

Given all the limitations in Iran, especially in the early decades of Islamic revolution, recognizing the authors, artists and contributors who paved the way for the next generation to practice freedom of speech, freedom of thoughts and freedom of art & creativity, is vitally important.

WP:HELPAFD "Help, my article got nominated for deletion!" - I hereby, humbly invite all the neutral contributors of Wikipedia to help keep this page as it is a well referenced page for a notable contributor of Iranian Underground Music as I firmly believe this nomination has been set by the contributor based on be bold concept.Navidpers (talk) 18:05, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Given split opinions. A reminder that Participants should justify their !votes in line with policy/guidelines

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 17:58, 25 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Passes WP:IRS, WP:PUBLISHED, WP:USEBYOTHERS and WP:N Artist is Notable - According to WP:N Under General Notability Guidelines “If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.” Artist has received significant Published WP:PUBLISHED coverage within multiple outlets such as Huffington Post and BBC which all under the guidelines are considered Significant, Reliable and Independent. WP:IRS Questioning the credibility and reliability of Huffington Post or B.B.C would profoundly concern our good will and neutrality to follow Wikipedia guidelines as the contributor who has deleted the Farsi Wikipedia page has clearly questioned the reliability of BBC as a reliable source. A google search reveals that primary independent reliable sources have been picked up by hundreds of other websites which falls under WP:USEBYOTHERS How accepted, high-quality reliable sources use a given source provides evidence, positive or negative, for its reliability and reputation. The more widespread and consistent this use is, the stronger the evidence. Sources are also considered verifiable under the WP:NRV. Although coverage was during a specific time period Notability is not temporary; once a topic has been the subject of "significant coverage" in accordance with the general notability guideline, it does not need to have ongoing coverage. WP:NTEMP In addition the artist has been reviewed as the Iranian ambassador of underground music movement on Bia2.com, one of the main Iranian online entertainment channels. The artist has played iconic concert venues in Dubai and California which has been exclusively covered by BBC and he has been one of the important influencers of Iranian pop music. In Conclusion I believe this artist should not be deleted as it does oblige to the necessary requirements of Wikipedia. It has also clearly demonstrated notability WP:N as an artist who has received significant coverage in reliable sources WP:IRS that are independent of the subject and clearly demonstrates necessary requirements needed for one.Khagoooshi (talk) 06:26, 31 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep the refs are patchy but probably just enough, huffpost and bbcpersian are the best of the bunch. Szzuk (talk) 19:30, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep It meets qualifications for WP:MUSICBIO, WP:NCONCERT, WP:COMPOSER, WP:IRS, WP:NEWSORG and WP:N – Artist Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself and Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. Artist is cited in reliable sources as being influential in style, technique, repertory or teaching for a particular music genre. Artist is also cited by reliable sources as having established a tradition or school in a particular music genre. WP:MUSICBIO Concert tours are probably notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Such coverage might show notability in terms of artistic approach, financial success, relationship to audience, or other such terms. WP:CONCERT and last but not least "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources, making sure that all majority and significant minority views that have appeared in those sources are covered (see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view). WP:IRS. The sources are recognized as reliable and verifiable sources by Wikipedia guidelines, News sources often contain both factual content and opinion content. "News reporting" from well-established news outlets is generally considered to be reliable for statements of fact (though even the most reputable reporting sometimes contains errors). News reporting from less-established outlets is generally considered less reliable for statements of fact. Most newspapers also reprint items from news agencies such as BBC News, Reuters, Interfax, Agence France-Presse, United Press International or the Associated Press, which are responsible for accuracy. The agency should be cited in addition to the newspaper that reprinted it. WP:NEWSORG. Given all the details and references inspired of Wikipedia Guidelines, based on the reliability, verifiability and neutrality of sources like BBC or Huffington Post, this artist is indeed considered as notable and meets the guidelines to be kept as an article on Wikipedia. WP:NNavidpers (talk) 04:16, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


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