Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bajaj Allianz Life Insurance


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Bajaj Group.  Sandstein  05:21, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Bajaj Allianz Life Insurance

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Does not meet the notability requirements; NCORP. The likelihood of a UPE being involved is relatively high. RPSkokie (talk) 12:50, 28 April 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Thoughts on AdesamSA's sources? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:06, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and India. RPSkokie (talk) 12:50, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Bajaj Group ATD, just another spoke of a larger conglomerate.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 14:26, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Maharashtra-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:25, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect Agree with the redirect, it's a subsidiary of the larger Allianz corporation. Oaktree b (talk) 19:27, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The Guinness Book is non-notable, the rest are press releases. Oaktree b (talk) 19:27, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge or redirect to Bajaj Finserv which is the parent entity that owns 74% stake in this company. Maduant (talk) 19:46, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY. I have added a good sources. international journal casestudy about Bajaj Allianz Growth after the privation of the company. 2nd source is Harvard Report, 3rd IJSR Report, 4th Researchandmarket Global Report of major players. I am sharing my last Industry Report linkAdesamSA (talk) 04:01, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep Thanks to the sources mentioned by AdesamSA. MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:55, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Two of the five citations shared by AdesamSA are from predatory journals — the Seventh Sense Research Group's International Journal of Economics and Management Studies (https://beallslist.net/) and the International Journal of Science and Research (https://journalsearches.com/journal.php?title=International%20Journal%20of%20Science%20and%20Research). The other three citations are; a case study by Ingo Walter, hosted at Harvard Business Publishing, and a commercial market research report by Research and Markets; both can be regarded as noteworthy and independent. But, the third one only has a passing mention in The Geneva Papers, which is hosted at JSTOR, along with seven other life insurance companies. The Wikipedia Library access was used to verify the aforementioned mention, which can be located on page 90. In summary, currently, the organization needs more reliable citations. As a result, there are two possible courses of action: either we agree to merge the page with Bajaj Finserv as suggested by Maduant, or we ask for an extension of the nomination process (by one more cycle) to allow the page to be further developed in accordance with WP:HEY. RPSkokie (talk) 08:09, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Response You agreed that 2 sources are good enough and acc. to WP:ORG if an organisation has 2 or more sources as per the guidelines, then it is considered as notable. Still, I am sharing more research links AJM Journal, Grandviewresearch Report, marketandmarkets Report, MarketResearchReports even, if you will look for reports you can get many others. Apart from that you have not shared the reason behind writing 2 of those journals as "predatory journals". Why ijsr Report is a passing mentain, where the whole report Summary is related to the same company and it's competitor? AdesamSA (talk) 05:19, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @AdesamSA There was an error in sharing the incorrect link regarding the IJSR. I have now rectified it in my comment. Please take a moment to review and explore the link to gain an understanding of the predatory characteristics associated with the IJSR. Also, you can explore the website https://beallslist.net/ to find the listing of Seventh Sense Research Group as a predatory publisher. This resource provides valuable information and helps identify publishers that exhibit predatory publishing traits. Regarding the other research links you provided in your response, I am unable to analyse them and make a judgment at this moment. Let us wait for input from others in order to form a well-informed perspective. RPSkokie (talk) 13:14, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I am still quite unclear as to who decides a journal is "predatory", what the implications of being "predatory" are, and whether a "predatory" journal ceases to be a reliable source. If there is a suggestion that these journals are for some reason not reliable sources, that discussion should be taken forward at WP:RSN. Stifle (talk) 08:36, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Bajaj Group. Fails GNG and ORG, routine news, stats, market research reports about companies do not show WP:N; the problems with the sources listed above has been covered by others. Even if it could squeak by GNG, it would still be an unnecessary WP:CFORK that serves no purpose other than making readers chase links.  // Timothy :: talk  18:46, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Response We will refer WP:ORG since it is a company and actually the tough criteria. You said "routine news", but I have not shared any news link, other than the Industry report of the Indian market. RPSkokie has done a healthy discussion and accepted 2 sources are as per the criteria, which means it passes WP:ORG. In few, he is not sure which is perfectly okay. I want you to please highlight the issues in the global Industry reports as I can't read it above. Let's consider 1 of them as a predatory journal still we have so many Industry Links to agree upon. If you think market reports are not helpful then kindly share what are highest standard links we need here to understand notability. AdesamSA (talk) 09:36, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Bajaj Group WP:ATD-R WP:CHEAP Lightburst (talk) 15:07, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Timothy. Nythar  (💬-🍀) 04:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)


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