Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bajo la misma piel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Withdrawn by nominator. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  22:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Bajo la misma piel

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A previously speedied article, removed by Deskana. Put back in a different format, but still totally un-noteworthy, no external links, no references, poorly written, effectively unencyclopedic in present condition. Thor Malmjursson (talk) 02:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

This AFD is WITHDRAWN - There is a Wikiproject on this Wikipedia relating specifically to all kinds of Soap Operas, which I believe a Telenovela would count as. I am going to pass this article to them for a full check over and to see if there is anything they can do with it. This follows discussion with other editors via IRC. I request any passing administrator to CLOSE this AfD as a Withdrawn/Kept. Thanks! Thor Malmjursson (talk) 22:48, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions.   --  StarM  03:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.   --  StarM  03:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't throw around the term notability, just because an article is badly written. All of these can be remedied. References and external links can be looked up and the formatting and writing can be cleaned. How is the show not notable, specifically? - Mgm|(talk) 09:41, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It isn't non-notable, I think that's why the nom is focusing on present condition. A two-second google returns these results specifically talking about the telenovela. In other words, it's a keep. And before it comes up, no, the sourcs don't need to be in English. StarM  13:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Firstly, I didn't say ANYTHING about it being non-notable, I said it was un-noteworthy. As in, never heard of, and be honest, how many people are gonna search an English language encyclopedia for information about a Mexican show which is in Spanish and I suspect, has probably never aired outside Mexico? I am focusing partly on the condition, but essentially, I don't believe the story/show/telenovela warrants an article here. Thor Malmjursson (talk) 14:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:BIAS, and did you see my link. Plenty are talking about it as I indicated in my link. English speakers who spent time in Mexico, saw it and want to know more? If it's in poor condition, fix it StarM  20:50, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think he's being biased at all. On the same token, it's not very likely that someone would come to an English Wikipedia for something that's all but known outside of Mexico, but it's still possible. We have plenty of articles sourced only to foriegn language sources. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 22:26, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - Things that are notable in Mexico are notable enough for an encyclopedia, even if it seems unlikely that the English encyclopedia would be the resource people will check. If its high profile there, and meets our notability requirements for television shows, then the article should be cleaned up - not deleted. WP:NOT I think is the link. Avruch  T 22:29, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


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