Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bajpara High School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The "keep" opinions rely on the view that all verifiable schools are notable; the community has rejected this view.  Sandstein  09:01, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Bajpara High School

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contested csd, was moved to Draft:Bajpara High School already, but an ip restarted the article with no content. So, since there is no English reliable source for this school (i am unable to search and understand the google result in Bangladesh native languages BTW), the article should be deleted under WP:GNG and school notability guideline. Matthew hk (talk) 20:56, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 21:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 21:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment More information regarding this page can be found at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. I had originally moved a version of this article to the draftspace as described by the nominator, but its original creator had been aggressive with the content attempting to get the page deleted. Jalen D. Folf   (talk)  21:03, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete no significant coverage to mention. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 23:13, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Just because sources aren't in English doesn't mean they can be discounted. That said, someone who can read the language should assess the sources, see if there's anything there that's useful. (And automated translation won't help; East and South Asian languages commonly return barely-comprehensible English.) —A little blue Bori v^_^v  Bori! 21:43, 17 March 2019 (UTC)


 * , well i believed seem a native speaker of Bengali and did the google search for me. Matthew hk (talk) 22:02, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
 * My criticism was of your rationale: [...]since there is no English reliable source for this school[...]. Not having English sources is in and of itself not disqualifying; in fact most articles on topics in non-Anglophone areas aren't going to be in English, and this includes the Subcontinent and surrounding areas. If they weren't able to find any useful sources, then obviously I will defer to their judgment (and abstain from !voting as I can't read it either). —A little blue Bori v^_^v  Bori! 01:00, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * There is less than 50 google results by the name shown in the article "বেজপাড়া উচ্চ বিদ্যালয়", i don't want to use the notorious Google Translate which is bad to translate non-Western languages, but by number and their domain, none of them seem significant coverage. Also, no source (no citation in the current wiki article) is a valid reason in Afd to userfiy the article, but may be not suitable as the article creator just ignore the fact that the article was moved to draft. (It was history merged after the start of Afd BTW) Matthew hk (talk) 01:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per the user who understands the language. Legacypac (talk) 09:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

"This [sic] page should not be speedily [sic] deleted because... (It is an important page for Manikganj District people)"
 * Comment As a sidenote, the article creator was so new that his contest of speedy and afd were left in everywhere (it was right in article talk for speedy but wrong in user talk for Afd and speedy). Since the user was blocked for 48h for things related to this article, I quote his reason here which was posted on 19:35, 17 March 2019:

--Matthew hk on public computer (talk) 09:38, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete for not being notable enough. A Dolphin (squeek?) 15:16, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. I've been able to find its official listing at the Dhaka Education Board (they render it "Baj Para") and a couple of directory listings; the official registry number is important for these schools. I've also tidied the article, including converting it to the school infobox from the one for settlements. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:37, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Existence does not grant notability. —A little blue Bori v^_^v  Bori! 23:02, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Nothing's guaranteed, but "Most ... high schools have historically been kept except when zero independent sources can be found to prove that the institution actually exists" suggests that the listings (one of them from the relevant state board) make it keepable. Yngvadottir (talk) 02:02, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Key word is "historically". The RfC on this exact topic two years ago rejects this rationale. —A little blue Bori v^_^v  Bori! 22:51, 20 March 2019 (UTC)


 * WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES should be added to the Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions, as it is an accurate statement of the results but promotes circular reasoning. (my emphasis) Matthew hk (talk) 08:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It already is. —A little blue Bori v^_^v  Bori! 22:51, 20 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Dude, it was a direct quote from WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, should I add [sic] to the word "should be added"?. Matthew hk on public computer (talk) 11:25, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep as the information in the article has been verified in reliable sources and the article suitably updated. The RFC on School Outcomes was a controversial, forced consensus which has effectively been rejected at AFD time and again, you can't force experienced editors to bow to an unacceptable instruction creep, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 19:01, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Super vote is an instruction creep too, which this "article" was contained a list of teachers (and was deleted by me), which the rest of the content simply qualify as WP:NOTADIRECTORY. Matthew hk (talk) 19:27, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * First excuse my english. There are couples of mentioning in government site about this school. apart of this, i didn't found anything else (eg news about this school, any notable student etc). I think we should not create an article about school, just because it exist. otherwise there are thousand of high school name can found here and you can start creating articles. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:55, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete The Board of Intermediate and Secondary Education and Amar School.com are trivial coverage. Sohopathi contains slightly more information, but all three are indiscriminate directories that attempt to list every school in Bangladesh. They fail WP:ORGDEPTH and so do not demonstrate notability.
 * Searches of the usual Google types, including by Bengali-script name, found more directory mirrors, but nothing deep and independent. There is what purports to be a school webpage, but it contains a mix of "Lorem ipsum" text and information about a different school in the district. Whatever one feels about WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES or the related RFC, this high school fails WP:NHSCHOOL.
 * It, like three quarters of the 20 high schools in the upazila, is so run-of-the-mill that it isn't worth redirecting to Shivalaya Upazila and itemizing there. If we knew which union parishad (the next smaller administrative division) the school is in, I could support redirecting to an article about that union. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:59, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 07:58, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:52, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as there doesn't appear to be significant coverage in English or Bengali, as noted above. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:37, 29 March 2019 (UTC)


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