Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balaklava Hill, California


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 04:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Balaklava Hill, California

 * – ( View AfD View log )

Another Durham entry, but in this case Gudde describes it as a "mining place", and there are a few geological citations implying it might have been a literal hill. In any case, I find no trace of it outside of these sorts of references and the usual clickbait. The topos of the area in question are remarkably changeless over a period of some fifty years, and show a hilly area with a number of named peaks (though not this name) and others without labels. The "Duchess Mine" is shown on the east side of one of the latter, and there is another unlabelled mine shown a bit further north, but other than that there is a decided lack of any buildings or other marks of habitation. Gudde mentions two other "Balaklava"s, in other No. California counties, and it's possible that the geological references mentioned above might be for one of those spots instead. I just cannot see how this passes any notability standard, and there is absolutely no evidence that this was a settlement. Mangoe (talk) 15:31, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:35, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:35, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete In California there was a gold camp called Balaklava Hill two and half miles south of Vallecito, California, according to California Gold Camps by Erwin G. Gudde and edited by Elisabeth K. Gudde. This book notes that Like a number of gold and copper mining places, it was named after Balaklava, a seaport on the Black Sea,... For example, Names and Naming by Puzey and Kostanski mentions a historic settlement in Australian goldfields known as Balaklava Hill and GEOREF contains publications that refer to the Balaklava coal deposits of Australia..


 * In 1884 Calaveras County, the California State Mining Bureau's Fourth Annual Report of the State Mineralogist for the Year Ending May 15, 1884 (p. 219) lists, without providing a location, of a placer mine named Balaklava Hill that produced 900 to 910 fine gold. In the gold field associated with the Balaklava Hill gold camp, there is listed in 1896 the Meinecker & Sanguinette mine, which was known as the Balaklava Mine, according to the California State Mining Bureau's, Thirteenth report (third biennial) of the state mineralogist for the two years ending September 15, 1896. The same report lists it as a combination of placer (hydraulic) and drift mine. However, the Balaklava Mine was just one of 2,800 gold mines in Calaveras County. To further confuse matters, the same California State Mining Bureau reports another Balaklava Mine in Shasta County, California.


 * Fulltext searches of the Proquest History Vault and EBSCO History Reference Center for Balaklava Hill yielded nothing useful. Understandably, searches for Balaklava yielded an overabundance of material about the Crimean War which can hinder searches.


 * Still, like the nominator, I do not understand how this entity, whatever it is, passes any notability standard. Paul H. (talk) 01:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment Apparently, there once was a feature known as Balaklava Hill at the location of this feature according to:


 * Shelden Davis, 1942, Moaning Cave Vallecita, California (Appeared in Stockton, ( Cal.) Record, April 1, 1922). Bulletin of the National Speleological Society. 4, pp. 25-28, 40.


 * This article states about Moaning Cavern in relation to Balaklava Hill:


 * The cave is located two miles from Vallecita on a spur at the right of the Parrott's Ferry road to Columbia and Sonora. It lies between the old Sloan ranch and Balaklava hill, which was named by the early French emigrants of the section after the famous Crimean battle. The natural bridges lie three-quarters of' a mile away on Coyote creek.


 * The Balaklava Hill mentioned above corresponds to the location of the Balaklava Mine. However, neither of them pass any notability standard. Paul H. (talk) 03:05, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - No post office. Confirmed to not be in GNIS.  Confirmed Gudde's "mining place".  Searching newspapers.com for "Balaklava Hill in California" yields a few mining and Crimean War references.  No legal recognition found, so #1 of WP:GEOLAND does not apply.  No coverage of this locale being any type of a settlement other than an insignificant mine with trivial coverage, so #2 of WP:GEOLAND applies. Cxbrx (talk) 20:30, 27 October 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.