Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baldwins Crossing, Arizona


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Red Rock, Yavapai County, Arizona. Spartaz Humbug! 09:16, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Baldwins Crossing, Arizona

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Non-notable area which fails WP:GNG and WP:GEOLAND Lightburst (talk) 02:13, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:19, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:19, 8 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - seems to be a bit of retaliatory nom (along with 4 other articles) for Articles for deletion/John McHugh Sr., which now seems to be headed for the deletion. And since this editor has never shown a propensity for Arizona geography articles. Passes WP:GEOLAND, since, according to GNIS it is has a "an official federally recognized name."  Onel 5969  TT me 03:01, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment My !voting record and AfD participation is available for anyone to see. I participate on multiple AfDs across every subject. I am sure Onel5969 has acted in good faith in creating these many non-notable Geoland articles. Unfortunately the fifty or so articles must all be nominated since they do not come close to satisfying SNG or GNG. Since the many articles created are not Legally recognized per the SNG of WP:GEOLAND - they must then pass WP:GNG as Populated places without legal recognition. They clearly do not pass. Lightburst (talk) 03:32, 8 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Red Rock, Yavapai County, Arizona which is the target of Red Rock Crossing, for which Baldwins Crossing is an alternate name. No reason for two articles on the exact same place. MB 04:31, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge. Hyperbolick (talk) 06:27, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete/redirect Source at Red Rock says this is the same crossing, which is not notable either. GNIS has incorrectly classified many crossings as populated places and that is still not basis for an article. Reywas92Talk 09:59, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - just to correct some misconceptions regarding GNIS and whether or not they are a reliable source for this type of Gazetteer information. All the following information is taken directly from the USGS website (emphasis added is mine):


 * The U.S. Board on Geographic Names (BGN) is a Federal body created in 1890 and established in its present form by Public Law in 1947 to maintain uniform geographic name usage throughout the Federal Government.


 * Decisions of the BGN were accepted as binding by all departments and agencies of the Federal Government.


 * It serves the Federal Government and the public as a central authority to which name problems, name inquiries, name changes, and new name proposals can be directed.


 * The GNIS Feature ID, Official Feature Name, and Official Feature Location are American National Standards Institute standards.


 * The database holds the Federally recognized name of each feature and defines the feature location by state, county, USGS topographic map, and geographic coordinates.  Onel 5969  TT me 02:19, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes  17:15, 15 December 2019 (UTC)


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