Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balen Shah


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The result was Draftification which was suggest by two participants.. Liz Read! Talk! 05:28, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Balen Shah

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Balen Shah

Non-notable rapper, engineer, and would-be politician who does not satisfy general notability, political notability, or musical notability. A draft was submitted and declined twice, by different submitters and different reviewers, both of whom said it did not establish biographical notability. This article was then resubmitted by another editor and created in article space by another editor, and the subject still is not notable. Nothing in the article or the draft establishes general notability. As a candidate for Mayor of a large city, the subject does not satisfy political notability. The discography (which has been copied from the draft) does not establish musical notability. An article should speak for itself without the need to check the references, and this article does not, but the references have been checked. Seven of them are about his mayoral campaign, and are all primary coverage or passing mentions. None of them provide the coverage required for general notability. There may be coordination between editors by his political campaign. This need not be addressed because he does not satisfy notability. Similarly, it is not necessary to inquire whether the editors have conflict of interest. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:15, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Politicians,  and Nepal. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:15, 1 May 2022 (UTC)


 * He is one of the well known musician/rapper from Nepal, which might be the reason other users also tried to create an article of him before. About his discography, no matter who writes about it, it will still be same because he was involved in those projects, so I don't know what different I could have done for that part. One biggest challenge I have gone through with articles related to Nepali people or films is that most of the time sources are considered unreliable. All of those sources which you have considered "probably" in terms of reliability are some of the best sources which covers Nepal related news coverage. Also regarding your comments on "would-be politician", I don't think only office or position holders are considered politician, as much as I know, person running for the office or position is also considered politician. I also do not have any coordination with any of the editors who you mentioned also tried to create this article, although I do agree that most of the references in the article only covers his political campaign, so I will work on finding more sources which covers other agenda as well. I just thought it would be helpful for Wikipedia if I create an article of someone who is well-known personality to Nepali people, any amount of time I get to improve this article would be appreciated. Krishna Dahal (talk) 05:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete:Not really notable person, just a candidate. Can incubate in draft till he is notable. Less chances of his win.JayMithila (talk)
 * Delete drafted article would be good option rather then this. Fade258 (talk) 06:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That would work for me as well, as long as one of the articles doesn't get deleted. Drafted one or one on the main page, one of them should stay in main space. Krishna Dahal (talk) 23:03, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


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