Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balji Nath Pandit


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The result was keep.. Trebor 11:16, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Balji Nath Pandit

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This article is still just a stub and no evidence of notability for the subject is given. There is no evidence that the works attributed to the author are notable. Buddhipriya 21:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions.   --  Agεθ020  ( ΔT  •  ФC ) 21:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment; the author has written many books: . John Vandenberg 23:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Move to "Balajinnatha Pandita", which is the correct name. Actually, he is more commonly known as B N Pandit(a) -- he is esteemed scholar of Kashmir Saivism and discovered a cave temple called Hapatgund. His books are used in syllabus of Indian universities (for eg. Mumbai University). 220.227.179.5 04:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, per User 220.227.179.5; books used as textbooks meets PROF. So far we dont know whether he is not affiliated with the uni, but it doesnt appear that way.  Wouldnt renaming to Balajinnātha Paṇḍita be better? John Vandenberg 04:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * He's not affiliated with the Mumbai University, only his book is listed in the syllabus. Balajinnātha Paṇḍita is IAST for Balajinnatha Pandita. Many scholars dealing with Sanskrit and Pali use IAST for every word of Indian origin, but generally, it is not used for names of modern places and people. For example, Kashmir is preferred to "Kāśmīra", Hindi is preferred to "Hindī" etc. Either is fine, but IAST makes it harder to search for the a word on a page (ASCII keyboards) and it also confuses majority of the users who don't know IAST. 220.227.179.5 07:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 04:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Regarding use of IAST, there are currently no good standards in place for its use within the Hinduism project, but I have collected a variety of threads related to IAST standardization at User:Buddhipriya/IASTUsage. While a few articles use IAST in the article title, most do not, and on at least one occasion my insertion of IAST in an article title was reverted by another editor on the grounds that it would be difficult for users to search for the article.  An example of an article that uses IAST in the title is Kaśmir Śaivism which pertains to this author. Buddhipriya 16:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment The book I can find listed in the syllabus for Mumbai University is Aspects of Kashmir Shaivism: B. N. Pandit, Utpala Publication Shrinagar 1977. Are there other titles that I have missed? Apparently that particular book is out of print or hard to find, as only one copy appears to be available on Amazon.com.  I have found one reference to Pandit, B. N. Pandit  (Hindi) Jammu, Shri Ranbir Kendriya Sanskrit Vidyapitha, 1973 in the bibliography to a recognized academic work on Kasmir Shaivism, Mark Dyczkowksi's The Doctrine of Vibration (ISBN 0-88706-432-9) so that supports the notion that some of his books are vetted by academic sources.  However I am unclear on exactly how the Wikipedia policy of notability would apply to a case like this. Buddhipriya 04:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:PROF is the appropriate standard. I have expanded the bio with a few facts I have found, and listed a subset of the mans works.  He has translated a number of Sanskrit texts. John Vandenberg 09:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Based on WP:PROF and the evidence reported here, I now feel that he probably does qualify, but this is the first case where I have examined WP:PROF in relation to a stub article like this. Closer examination of his bibliography shows that some of the key works are in Hindi, which would affect the number of Western academic citations to them.  Buddhipriya 17:13, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep: over ten books, six of which appear in my research library, establishes notability--add "in need of an expert tag," since the article gives little context. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 17:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep: the evidence presented, and now added to the article, establishes that the subject meets the tests of notability for academics. Buddhipriya 18:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


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