Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baljinder


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 05:00, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Baljinder

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I don't really know how to classify this nomination. It's really just an article about one of a million names, it has a list of four people in it (was five, the fifth being that of a blocked user who created this page) none of whom have articles about them. And then there's a bit about the name having a number of 75, which also equals the number for "Kindly" and so on. Prod was contested, so it is here. Strong Delete recommendation. SpacemanSpiff (talk) 02:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  —SpacemanSpiff (talk) 02:27, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Anthroponymy has been informed of this ongoing discussion.  pablo hablo. 09:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment/question - I know that there are many articles and disambig pages on names (Category:Given names contains examples), is there a general policy on these? pablo hablo. 08:31, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find a policy, but this doesn't serve as a disambig page (no one by the name on Wikipedia currently), but the other pages I looked at did. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 13:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You may not find a policy, but whether you like it or not, the articles about given names are more likely to be kept. See what happened here. Salih  ( talk ) 15:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My point is not against articles on first names, far from it. The reason I put this specific one up was because it doesn't function as a disambig page - which simply makes it a page about one of a million names. A Jane or Kumar makes sense because they can link to multiple people, but this one doesn't. As for the addition below, it happened today, and while I'm not going to research on it to do an AfD, from the page it looks like a WP:BLP1E, but maybe there's an exception. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 18:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

KEEP There is yet not enough contributions of articles on Indian subjects including the personalities biographies and names. I have created a new article - Baljinder Badesha which meets all notability requirements of the wikipedia, and has linked the same to Baljinder as the AfD nominee had commented that 'no one by the name on Wikipedia currently'. We need more positive and resourceful editors to better contribute and expand the WikiProject Anthroponymy. CosmicPerspectives (talk) 16:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * User:CosmicPerspectives has been blocked as a sockpuppet of the User:E6nvikas-User:Norwe(who edited this article)-User:Norwest2-User:Ib40(who created this article) continuum. Priyanath talk 03:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete as failing WP:GNG. An article on a first name is worth keeping in two cases:
 * As a disambiguation page when there are several (at least more than 2) similarly named persons on wikipedia, as in Gandhi (disambiguation) or John. Baljinder fails that test since there is currently two related bios. on wikipedia, Baljinder (Himachal Pradesh cricketer) and Baljinder Badesha - neither of which are unlikely to survive an AFD.
 * When the name itself is notable enough to meet WP:GNG, and we have significant coverage in multiple reliable sources attesting to its etymology, history, variants, significance etc, such as in Jesus (name) or Yuan (surname). Currently there is insufficient reliably sourced information in the article to meet that test (and I didn't find any), though I'll be happy to reevaluate if sources are found.
 * Also see discussion at Naming conventions, even though that is a MOS rather than a notability guideline
 * Aside: From his editing history is almost surely a sock account of article creator,  etc, who have been blocked for an year for socking and COI editing related to Educare India and its project director Baljinder S Bhullar. Abecedare (talk) 19:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment on User:Abecedare: - Your concerns may be valid for / against the mentioned articles or blocked users, but in my user history I have neither created nor has made any contribution either to EduCARE India or Baljinder S Bhullar, as alleged. I modified and edited the article Baljinder in response to an earlier prod. The article Baljinder Badesha was created for its relative correlation and notability. Except that there has been a positive contribution on the Volunteering. This is a discussion page with freedom to express one's opinion on the nomination of the article, however, your observations about me are personal insinuations. Please be fairly objective. I intend to create articles related to Punjab. You may keep a Watch and contribute to / object to my articles (talk) 21:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)CosmicPerspectives (talk) 21:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Niteshift36 (talk) 06:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, and not notable as a name per se, even if there are a few people with the name who are somewhat notable. Priyanath talk 14:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment The only 'keep' !vote is from a sockpuppet of the creator of the article, and another editor of the article, as pointed out above. Priyanath talk 03:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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