Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balraj Arunasalam


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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per relatively low participation herein. North America1000 23:48, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Balraj Arunasalam

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Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. The individual is an unremarkable executive of a non-notable engineering company and the article is essentially just a PR/spam piece promoting the individual. Being the Vice President of Toastmasters is hardly notable. None of the other executive of Toastmasters International are deemed to be notable and to quote the Toastmasters article: "More than 20,000 of Toastmasters' 4 million past and present members have achieved the elite DTM status." So his awards are hardly notable either. Dan arndt (talk) 13:29, 20 June 2017 (UTC) Dan arndt (talk) 13:29, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 14:00, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 14:00, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep: Full fills WP:BASIC since there are multiple reliable sources provided to prove this individuals notability. It is Dan's PoV that serving as Internationale President of Toastmasters International is not notable. NaminiGunasena (talk) 19:02, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - The first reference cited above by is essentially a mention in passing, states Arunasalem is the Past District Governor of Toastmasters District 82 (a non-notable position). The second reference is more substantial but still relates to a non-notable role in Toastmasters. The third reference cited, simply states that he was elected as President elect of the organization - nothing more. Being the 'president-elect' of Toastmaters International does not confer automatic notability. As indicated previously none of the previous presidents of Toastmasters International have been identified as notable, so what makes this individual any different? Also WP:BASIC states "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability." Dan arndt (talk) 01:42, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - Multiple independent sources have been provided here to demonstrate notability. As I said before, Dan its your PoV that said posts are non-notable. Leaders of international social groups have wiki pages such as Kalyan Banerjee (Rotary International), M. J. C. Amarasuriya. NaminiGunasena (talk) 15:34, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - almost all the references cited are merely mentions in passing. Essentially what is Arunasalam really notable for? If it is as the president of Toastmasters International (which in my view is not notable anyway - for the reasons stated above) than as 'president-elect' it is a case of WP:TOOSOON. The others you've cited such as Amarasuriya is potentially notable as the chairman of the Commercial Bank of Ceylon rather than being the presidents of Lions. In summary the question that needs to be asked is has "the person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field.?" (as per WP:ANYBIO). Dan arndt (talk) 02:45, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - Additional refs have been added which are more than "mentions in passing". Furthermore, it is my view that the two bios given here highlight the presidency than other achievements. Therefore, I believe this article should be retained. NaminiGunasena (talk) 18:46, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Note that more sources were added to the article after the nomination for deletion.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:49, 27 June 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Note that more sources were added to the article after the nomination for deletion.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC)


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