Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baltia Air Lines


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 05:18, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Baltia Air Lines

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This is a company which was founded in 1989, and since then plans to launch flight operations. Up to now, they only achieved to create a website and to buy one sinlge aircraft. There are no comments to find about when flights will start, so I cannot see why this company shall be considered notable. Except for the website, there are no reliable references at all, and this proposed airline did not get any considerable news coverage, so IMO it just fails WP:CORP due to WP:CRYSTAL. Most of the article was written by User:BaltiaAirLines, as an obvious promotion and POV (only contribution by this user), though these contents are removed again by now. To cut a long story short, if I were to buy an aircraft and stated that I planned to launch flights between New York and St Petersburg, it would not be notable here on Wikipedia yet. Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 16:44, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:09, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Admrboltz (talk) 21:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is by no means, easy to buy an aircraft. Further, a google search reveals several articles referring to this company. Looks notable to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BenOneHundred (talk • contribs) 09:37, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: So, could you please give a reason why this comapny should be notable? Buying an aircraft - whether it's easy or not - is surely not an inclusion criterium. Notability would be established if this airline operated any flights, or at least once a definite starting date is given. A mere intention (even when covered in the media) does not mean anything here on Wikipedia. Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 10:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete. No evidence of independent sources to satisfy WP:CORP. Alzarian16 (talk) 19:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep This is an existing startup airline with offices in JFK International Airport, whose airplane is currently located in Malaysian FAA approved maintainable facility MAS Aerospace engineering MRO facility that is undergoing redesign and proper maintainable. The airline is currently in possess of being evaluated and certified by FAA. So yea, IMO its a notable airline —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.70.89.130 (talk) 19:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Also, the account of the only keep !vote in the first listing is now blocked as a sockpuppet. jonkerz♠ 17:57, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
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