Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bane Mojićević


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. The one "keep" arguer has a tough row to hoe without English-language sources. If some are found, the article can be recreated. Chick Bowen 01:27, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Bane Mojićević

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PROD contested reason nn person fails wp:music. -- Oo7565 04:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC) Delete also - article has no sources. He won the contest in 2004; has no albums out by him; says he toured the world with the other 5 people from the contest but again no sources; totally fails wp:music. -- Oo7565 04:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep - Not non-notable, just poorly sourced and badly in need of expansion. I've added one source, and while I don't know if it covers everything, it certainly covers enough to confirm the contest and a few other minor points.  There may be more information in there that could be used to expand the article further, as well.  I've also found two other links (unfortunately, they're only blogs), one of which agrees with more points made in the article and is also the only English source I could find, and one which may or may not have more information as well.  The article also does not fail WP:MUSIC.:
 * 9. Has won or placed in a major music competition. -- This much, at the very least, is/was claimed, and is now sourced.
 * 4. Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country, reported in reliable sources. -- Claimed, perhaps sourced, but I can't read Serbian so can't be sure of what those links say.
 * 5. Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable). -- I don't know where Grand Production falls on this scale, but he has released one album through them, if not two.
 * 1. It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable. -- I would imagine there are more sources, especially newspapers and things, but I am unable to check that, so while I won't use this as proof of notability, it's still worth consideration.
 * I can believe that he likely isn't very notable in the English-speaking world, but if that's the logic being used, the argument behind deletion degrades into something little better than WP:IDONTKNOWIT. If a Serbian speaker could work on the article a bit, that would probably help immensely, but having someone actively expanding a stub is hardly a requirement, for any article/topic. -Bbik ★ 16:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment from nominator - for wp: music it passes number 9 but for number 4,5 and 1 it does not pass maybe it does if does please update the article also please make sure it souredOo7565 07:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC) One more thing someone who ever closers this afd might want to relist this to get a better consensus on this AfD thanksOo7565 07:42, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: Can we see a source which proves that there was a 'world tour'? At the moment I'm borderline Delete.  Marcus22 18:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Citi Cat   ♫  04:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - This is English Wikipedia, which requires material from reliable sources that are independent of Bane Mojićević to create an attributable article. If the reliable sources are in Serbian and no one participating in this AfD can locate them, then consensus only can be that the topic does not meet the general notability guideline requirements of English Wikipedia. Bane's Serbian Wikipedia entry - Бранислав Мојићевић contains even less information than his English Wikipedia entry. My own search turned up no reliable source information. Bane may have done a lot of important/significant things and the topic might even meet WP:MUSIC, but if no reliable source is writing about his activities, then there is nothing to put in the English Wikipedia article. English Wikipedia will just have to wait until Serbian Wikipedia sources their article better or someone can locate enough reliable source material for the article. -- Jreferee    t / c  01:11, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.