Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bankhead (Atlanta)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Bankhead (Atlanta)

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Cities are notable, no one disputes that Atlanta is notable. This difficult to define "neighborhood" in Atlanta on the other hand... Not so notable. Nor is it all that verifiable through reliable third party publications. Alas, we should delete. JBsupreme (talk) 09:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of Atlanta neighborhoods. I would add that just because there's a template here, it does not mean an official endorsement of anything.  It simply means that an editor, like you or I, created a template.  Mandsford (talk) 12:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is true. I have no opinion (at this time) regarding the other "neighborhoods" within that template.  JBsupreme (talk) 16:37, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't exactly understand this AfD, but then again what do I know about the Dirty South (this is just meant to be an inside, too-cool-for-school in joke for WikiProject Hip-Hop member JBsupreme - others can ignore it!). But seriously&mdash;is there a reason why this particular neighborhood was put up for AfD? We obviously have articles on most ATL neighborhoods. This article is pretty weak, but there's no reason it cannot be expanded with demographic data, a map, info about schools, major employers, and hospitals, discussion of its history, etc. Atlanta is an extremely historic city, and presumably this neighborhood used to be something else and we could talk about that, how it changed over the years, how it got its name, etc. Maybe in the past it was not even part of Atlanta proper and I'm sure we could find sources that say so one way or another, though probably in books that deal specifically with the history of ATL (like maybe this one). Additionally, this neighborhood is actually rather notorious even outside of Atlanta as a fairly high-crime area, and the idea that it's not notable thus seems a bit odd (I've heard of it and I've never lived in the South). Rappers T.I. and Shawty Lo were in a widely covered feud about whether the former could properly claim "Bankhead" status, and that alone created a flurry of discussion in various hip-hop mags/web sites and also suggests that the neighborhood is somewhat notable since famous people are fighting about whether they properly "represent" the place in question. Also we have an article about a famous dance (MJ did it!) named after this neighborhood and even one on the MARTA (the Atlanta subway) stop in the neighborhood. It would be rather strange to delete an article about a neighborhood and keep an article about a subway stop within that neighborhood or a dance named after it, and likewise it would be odd to delete this article on a well-known Atlanta neighborhood while keeping articles on a bunch of others. Overall I'm of the view that large, historic cities like Atlanta warrant articles on all of the individual neighborhoods that exist within said city. It might take a bit of digging to find sources, but I'm confident that we can develop and maintain a decent article about Bankhead (maybe not as fancy as the article about wealthy Buckhead, but I suppose Wikipedia like society will have its inequalities!). Finally, if my comment here saves this article from deletion I plan to call T.I. and demand that he buy me whatever I like. --Bigtimepeace | talk |  contribs 05:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Further comment. Also just in terms of sources, see    (first three from Atlanta-Journal Constitution, last from Washington Post). None are freely available online (you get a preview of what they are about though) but I'm sure we could find these and/or others like them in the Nexis or Pro-Quest Newspapers databases. In other words I do think we can source this article. --Bigtimepeace | talk |  contribs 05:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Unverifiable? Just look at a map.  A neighborhood in a major city that even has a subway stop with the designation of the neighborhood is inherently notable.  There's even a book called Bankhead to Buckhead: Atlanta, After the Ashes.  While I don't have access to the text, I don't think it's a stretch to assume that there is non-trivial coverage of Bankhead in it. Other books cover Bankhead too. --Oakshade (talk) 10:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
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