Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bao Jinghowlal


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Bao Jinghowlal

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Fails WP:N and WP:ATHLETE. Google search results only in wikipedia mirrors. The Yap 'national' team is a selection from a state within Micronesia. Has never played for the actual Micronesian national team Stu.W UK (talk) 00:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 *  Redirect Neutral (and possibly merge) to Yap football team per notability and BLP concerns, and while I thought I saw some confirmation of him on a gsearch it now appears it may be mostly the usual spread of misinformation. JJL (talk) 00:45, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm confused. He should be notable according to WP:ATHLETE but I can't find any reference of him as captain of the Yap football team. There seems to be no way to verify the information in the article. Maybe delete? Anti  venin  15:24, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: I had this article on my watch page for a while and have found no sources that show Bao Jinghowlal actually is captain or even a member of the team. A problem is that the team itself is not well-known, and sources on it are scant. However, the site Footiemag.de does list many members of the Yap football team, playing for either Micronesia or Yap, so it seems the captain should have an entry, especially if he joined the team in 2001. Similarly, many players on the Yap article are listed at here, but no Jinghowlal. At a minimum, this article fails core policy WP:V, and I do not believe even a redirect is indicated without the addition of supporting references. Michael Devore (talk) 20:30, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Do Not Delete: I am a Yap football fan. Bao actually is no longer under contract with the team. He disappeared and it appears that he is currently being probed by the Micronesian government. They have gone to extreme lengths to remove him from any public records. He is in fact a real person and did play for the Yap football team. Maybe if his page were to exist as just a regular person? That sounds reasonable to me. Borninasmalltown67 (talk) 22:02, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The Micronesian government both desires and is able to remove him from the online records of a German soccer magazine and a 2003 training camp announcement because of a probe? That seems unlikely. Bao Jinghowlal may be a real person, but there have been dubious edits made to this article and the Yap football article (since reverted), including by the original author User:Soccahdude1122 and anonymous IPs. A claim of government erasure by a newly minted editor with this one edit only makes me more suspicious of a hoax. Even if his status is real, reliable sources should be provided when there is a question about their veracity. Unsourced claims are insufficient per Wikipedia guidelines. Provide a reliable source and I'll retract my delete recommendation. -- Michael Devore (talk) 03:40, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


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