Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baptist College


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. The Bushranger One ping only 00:01, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Baptist College

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This is not an article about "Baptist College," but is simply a list of unrelated and undefined organizations that have the word "Baptist" and "College." Some, listed like Saker Baptist College, is actually a high school and other Baptist colleges, like Lynchburg Baptist College, aren't listed. As a undefined and unsourced list, it fails WP:LIST. In contrast, List of Independent Fundamental Baptist higher education institutions is a properly defined list of Baptist colleges. As a disambiguation, it is unhelpful and even confusing. SalHamton (talk) 03:58, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2013 January 8.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  04:17, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * At first glance, it does seem useful as a disambiguation—why do you find it unhelpful? הסרפד  (call me “Hasirpad”) (formerly R——bo) 04:34, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Rename List of Baptist colleges and exclude those that are non-religious or not colleges. This is not a proper dab page; see WP:Partial title match. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:07, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, as SalHamton has pointed out there is a better list. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:18, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Rename per Clarityfiend. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Redo as a list --DHeyward (talk) 07:05, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: Already a List of Baptist colleges and universities in the United States article. SalHamton (talk) 03:51, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to List of Baptist colleges and universities in the United States per SalHamton. הסרפד  (call me Hasirpad) (formerly R——bo) 00:24, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep this dab page: I'm sure that any of these colleges is likely to be refered to locally, and in biographies etc, as "Baptist College", so although technically "partial matches" they seem to make up a useful disambiguation page. They may or may not be "baptist" "colleges" at present (could have evolved into high schools or even housing developments), but that's nothing to do with the validity of the disambiguation page. The contrasting list is quite different, and rightly includes places like Crown College (Tennessee), which is a baptist college but has no place in the disambiguation page. The dab page and the list serve different purposes and both are valid and needed. Lynchburg should be added ... done so, though it's a redirect to Liberty University which is perhaps why it wasn't included before. The dab page could also usefully have some annotations as to which country (all USA? or not?) they are in. Pam  D  13:03, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't buy that these are known locally as just "Baptist College" (usually they are abbreviated as "Clear Creek" instead of Clear Creek Baptist Bible College). But let's pretend you are right. Having a dab of places that use a partial title match, violates WP:Partial title match. See the example for Zoo (disambiguation), where it doesn't list every single place that has zoo in its title. (Even though, local people refer to their zoo as simply "the zoo.")


 * Also if you keep the article as a dab you'll need to add many, many more. Such as: California Baptist University, Clear Creek Baptist Bible College, Faith Baptist Bible College and Theological Seminary, Heartland Baptist Bible College, Pillsbury Baptist Bible College, Northland Baptist Bible College, Maranatha Baptist Bible College, Mountain States Baptist College, Tabernacle Baptist College, Texas Baptist College, Trinity Valley Baptist Seminary and College and so on. At that point, you'll notice major and near total overlap with List of Baptist colleges and universities in the United States, List of Baptist schools in the United States and Category:Baptist universities and colleges in the United States, not to mention the sublists like List of Independent Fundamental Baptist higher education institutions. SalHamton (talk) 16:46, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep: This is a very subjective AfD, as this isn't about notability or even plausibility - its more than plausible that people do searches on "baptist college".    As a dab page, then, its useful, so there's no good reason to delete.  This page is not an outlier, see, e.g., Methodist College, First United Methodist Church, First Baptist Church.--Milowent • hasspoken  05:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:47, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - It's a disambiguation page, and a good one, from what I can tell. The only thing that actually links to it is the redirect Baptist College (disambiguation). Having a disambiguation page for common search terms is much better than having a redlink. ~Adjwilley (talk) 03:58, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep as it is a perfectly valid dab page. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 01:57, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.