Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barbados–Ireland relations


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 16:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Barbados–Ireland relations

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Relations are effectively non-existent. Neither country has representation in the other. The main content of the article is about Irish people who happened to be transported to Barbados, which has nothing to do with diplomatic relations. Stifle (talk) 09:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge the information to Irish diaspora, without a redirect. The article content is off-topic, I don't understand how it even ended up under this title. Drawn Some (talk) 10:39, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete support merge. Wasn't done with article but Barbados-Ireland may not be very notable under current guidelines. Prior, when many articles were 1-2 lines with solely the date of diplomatic relations this would have been just like anyother stub. But now there is some consensus for what to keep and what not to keep.  I must admit this currently doesn't stack-up. I will note I had started this before there was an overall structure of what was being outlined in these x-y country relations articles.  There was some talk about deepening ties with Ireland in Barbados, but significant ties aren't there now...  Other than that I believe an Irish Airport has a financial stake of some type in the Government-owned airport in B'dos but I don't know exactly how that was structured. CaribDigita (talk) 12:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right, the Dublin Airport Authority operates five stores there . Stifle (talk) 14:40, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that would be it. I vaguely remember the B'dos government making a statement about the Dublin Airports Authority entering into some form of partnership with them.   But this isn't to the level of technical cooperation or anything. CaribDigita (talk) 08:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge the information to Irish diaspora, without a redirect as per Drawn Some. The current article should be deleted on the basis of a lack of significant coverage of bilateral relations. This was the only article I found about actual bilateral relations . LibStar (talk) 14:48, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A problem some of this content might belong in the diaspora article. None of this content is about bi-lateral relations. What is the weight that should be given to barbados in the diaspora article? Ah, solution. I went ahead and did it: . So let's delete this article on a non-notable, basically non-existent relationship between modern nation states and move on.Bali ultimate (talk) 17:20, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * addendum to my own comment. One of the things that troubles me about so many of the attempts to "save" these articles is that they often demonstrate little understanding about what a bilateral relationship is. There's some very nice info in this as stands about a scroll commemorating irishmen sent to indentured labor in barbados 360 years ago, the ways in which catholicism among irishmen were suppressed in both ireland and in barbados under english rule, etc... but none of those things are about this relationship. That is to say, there is an innacurate conflation about sources that might mention a connection between events, or phrases, or mentions of the two words with neccessarily saying something about the relationshp. I was just looking at another of these articles about a latam country and switzerland, and there's a little nugget from a 1951 article that notes that the latam country was once described as "the switzerland of the americas" because of its banking laws at the time. That too, does not say anything about the bilateral relationship, but if one were to seek to remove it the counter-argument would be "but you can't remove sourced content." Not sure what can be done about this, but it bothers me. Ok. Rant over.Bali ultimate (talk) 17:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete article content is inappropriate, and irrelevant to the topic. No redirect. -- Blue Squadron  Raven  17:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per longstanding historical relationship. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 06:42, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * What longstanding historical relationship, exactly? The countries don't even have embassies in each other. Stifle (talk) 08:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Embassies alone doesn't mean anything. Many countries do also have foreign accredidations. CaribDigita (talk) 04:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Brendan, I guess. Wikipedia making the history :) Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 17:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, random X-Y article. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 17:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete No secondary sources cover this relation in the detail required for an article. Hipocrite (talk) 16:17, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Such history gives them quite a notable relationship.  D r e a m Focus  19:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Could you explain how the presence of indentured servants from ireland in barbados before the widespread adoption of out and out slavery in barbados, before barbados was even an independent state (and one can argue about ireland), says anything about an ongoing (and even a historial) bilateral relationship between nation states? No reliable sources address this question.Bali ultimate (talk) 19:45, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete or Merge to Irish diaspora. Like other X-Y relations articles, if this articles is going to exist, it should discuss the foreign relations between these two countries. As there are no sources on this topic, there's no way to write an encyclopedia article on this topic, so the article should be deleted. Yilloslime T C  22:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Keeping this article and the others like it creates the precedent for thousands of minor articles for the relations between every single country in the world. (Then imagine if we started on every state inside every country, where does it end?) If there is a significant relationship include it in the relevant country's article.Knobbly (talk) 13:32, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to Irish diaspora – there are no substantial international relations, while the information on the religious and migratory relationship is both interesting and well sourced.  Skomorokh   18:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.