Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barbara Wise


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 05:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Barbara Wise

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Appears to fail WP:BIO. While there is one reliable source, it appears that the person's only claim to some semblance of notability is that they keeled over at work rather than in some other place. SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Seems to me people uninformed with the notoriety of Clinton Administration Era Controversies are ignorant of Barbara Wise and the significance of her death just prior to her testimony to a grand jury implicating William Jefferson Clinton's involvement, with Ron Brown, at Commerce, details of receiving through intermediary John Huang, funds from illegal sources. I do all the spade-work and ignorant and uniformed people just delete my work because they are uneducated and hostile about my page and the significance of targetChronique55 (talk) 15:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete and merge She is only notable for WP:ONEEVENT and wouldn't be known if she hadn't be killed in these circumstances. I suggest a merge in the Commercegate article where this information would be more useful. Laurent (talk) 15:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and merge  As Laurent - (but we don't say she was killed, we say the coroner's report was that she died of natural causes). As for the merge, if it takes place it will have to be without of course Judicialwatch or the fake memorial library urls. Neither are RS for this. We would also need reliable sources tying her to Commercegate, right now her inclusion seems OR. Someone seems to have a bad case of WP:OWN and a real need to read WP:Civil, WP:RS, WP:NPOV at the very least. Dougweller (talk) 11:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment A web search on Commercegate and "Barbara Wise" turns up nothing, so I shall delete her from the Commercegate article as without a reliable source her inclusion is clearly OR. Dougweller (talk) 12:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment There's the Washington Post article . However it seems that her death is part of a rumor / urban legend: see this link in particular. I didn't read through it completely but found this comment in particular: "There was no pool of blood, and Barbara Wise's death was never ruled a suicide by anyone. She was discovered in her Commerce Department office on 29 November 1996 after last being seen alive on 27 November 1996, the day before Thanksgiving. A thorough investigation uncovered no evidence of foul play or suicide. Wise had a history of frequent and severe health problems, including liver ailments. Her death was attributed to natural causes." For that reason, we should probably look into the Commercegate article too (if it hasn't been done already) and possibly mention that it is a fringe theory Laurent (talk) 12:49, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:47, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


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