Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barney James


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. no consensuis after three weeks on whether he is notable or not JForget  00:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Barney James

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Non-notable English musician. Was member of Warhorse (British band), only a slightly notable band. Also for Rick Wakeman, apparently but his article doesn't even mention him, so he must not be so important to Wakeman. Also minor actor. No significant coverage. Overall, fails all criteria of WP:ENT. Christopher Connor (talk) 03:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

If you read Wakeman's articles on Journey To The Centre of the Earth and The Knights of the Round Table you will see Barney James is mentioned as the drummer on both albums. He was a lead actor in Sebastiane which is a cult classic film. Therefore Barney James meets the criteria required for this type of article. You should also note that the article is attracting an average of 20+ hits a day, so some people find the article interesting / useful even if you do not. User:Thehenleylist 02:13, 19 August 2010 (GMT)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:30, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

Keep The Artist has entries on IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, Love Film etc covering his film work, he is covered in the Deep Purple Rock Family Tree on http://www.deep-purple.net/tree/warhorse.htm for Warhorse and in Wikipedia's own articles on Rick Wakemans albums. The Artist also has his own website. Thehenleylist (talk) 06:58, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Artist appear to be quite accomplished, but there's no evidence he's been covered substanitally in reliable independent sources. Freakshownerd (talk) 03:29, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I believe the article deserves to stay, a quick Google search reveals images of Barney with Rick Wakeman, stills from Sebastianne etc. Due to the era of his "fame" most articles featuring him would have been in printed media and not online. He is certainly more famous than some of the talentless dross Z-leb's that the reality TV industry produces each year and Wikipedia seems to have no problem listing them. Rob Hooton (talk) 12:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Notability is low but real. Keep. DS (talk) 15:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:18, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep. He played on two hugely successful albums, Journey to the Centre of Earth (multi-million seller and UK #1) and The Myths and Legends of King Arthur... (again, multi-million seller, UK #2, US #21), as well as his other claims to notability. I believe there is precedence for recognising the contributions of a musician who is a member of a solo artist's regular 'band': see Articles for deletion/Del Palmer (second nomination). Bondegezou (talk) 13:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
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