Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barry Baker


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 02:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Barry Baker

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Originally PROD'ed on the grounds that this football player/manager has never played or managed at anywhere near professional level, only having been a youth team player at a pro club and manager of a few fairly low-level semi-pro clubs. PROD was removed with (as is usually the case) no explanation whatsoever..... ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:32, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:32, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. There is no indication this person meets WP:GNG, and he has not played or managed professionally. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:39, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails both WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 17:44, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't Care - I removed the prod. I did not do so "with no explanation".  I followed the wording of the prod banner, and put this on the talk page, where it still is:
 * I know nothing about football, but the suggested deletion (which I have commented out) implies that Notability can only be based on professional status. The article describes a perfectly normal dedicated amateur, who in addition has been important in 'breeding' professional players.  I consider that just as notable as some of the anonymous band of boring dullards who happen to earn a living by kicking a ball.  There seems to be a creeping atmosphere in WP that notability==fame.


 * I've lived near Grantham most of my life (so far) and regard it as depressing a nest of dullards as you would dare to imagine. If one of them has put some effort into community life rather than feeding his face, watching TV, and breeding more dole bandits, then that might, just might, be worthy of attention. I don't know.  But I very unhappy that WP has such a coarse and undiscriminating definition of Notable and think a more discerning approach should at least be considered. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 18:34, 26 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Has not played or managed in a fully professional league, failing WP:NFOOTBALL, and hasn't received any significant coverage in independent reliable sources to pass WP:GNG. I'm sure he is a swell guy, but he is no more notable than I am when it comes to Wikipedia. Argyle 4 Life  talk  20:34, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:48, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.