Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barry Beck (Entreprenuer)


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:26, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Barry Beck (Entreprenuer)

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Non-notable executive, fails WP:BIO and the GNG. Of the three sources proffered in this article, the first is about his company and his wife, the second is a mere stat block, and the third is from his alumni magazine. A search for sources turn up various social media, blogs, press releases, and articles about his company in which he's quoted (something the GNG explicitly debars as a valid source supporting the notability of the person being quoted), but which do not describe him in the "significant detail" the GNG requires. Article was created by a SPA whose sole Wikipedia activity involves the articles for the subject, his wife and his company.   Ravenswing   20:09, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment - Barry Beck is a notable business executive. Has has founded 2 companies - Bluemercury & M-61 - the first of which will have 50 locations in the United States by the end of 2014. It is a multi million dollar business. He has also been interviewed for his insight into the luxury beauty industry. For example, found here: http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/shoparound/hair-beauty/5-things-i-cant-live-without-bluemercury-cofounder-barry-beck.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gremlin700 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Reply: Yes, that's the piece that led me to make the comment about people being quoted. I suggest you review WP:GNG, which sets forth that in order to pass the notability bar to qualify for an article, a subject must be discussed in "significant detail" in multiple third-party, independent, reliable sources with a reputation for fact checking.  Those sources cannot be solely about his company or his wife, they cannot be pieces doing nothing more than quoting him, they cannot be press releases; they have to discuss him in significant detail.  Whether his company or his wife pass notability standards is irrelevant.   Ravenswing   21:27, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:57, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * Comment - Barry Beck was featured in the book "The Intelligent Entrepreneur: How Three Harvard Business School Graduates Learned the 10 Rules of Successful Entrepreneurship. This reference has been added to his article. It is a significant, reliable third-part source. TheGoogle eBook links directly to the pages discussing his involvement in the founding of the company. Please advise if this addition suffices to have the deletion marker removed.User talk: Gremlin700, 13 January 2014 —Preceding undated comment added 20:25, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have deleted superfluous information and added an additional reference to Washingtonian Magazine, another third-party reputable source.. User talk: Gremlin700, 13 January 2014.  —Preceding undated comment added 21:21, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * CommentI want to remove this warning. Could someone please respond to the above edits and conversation. User talk:Gremlin700, 14 January 2014
 * Reply: He is mentioned in the book you cited, but not in the "significant detail" the GNG requires; the section is actually about his wife. The Washingtonian piece is the one that was already in the article to which I refer above: it quotes Beck about his opinion on several beauty products, but the GNG debars pieces where the subject is quoted talking about something else as supporting the subject's own notability.   Ravenswing   19:17, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete I wasn't able to find any independent sources to indicate notability separate from that of the company he is a part of. -DJSasso (talk) 19:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Reply How is it you were unable to find sources? Here: https://www.ourtownkey.com/business/index/id/196. And here: http://www.patriotledger.com/business/x987654207/Bluemercury-rising. And here: http://www.beautynewsnyc.com/skin-care/m-61-the-blue-mercury-new-skin-care-line/. I can't understand how these aren't sufficient. And there are more sources on the page. User talk: Gremlin700, 14 January 2014 —Preceding undated comment added 21:01, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Because those three references you mention only say that he is the co-founder of this company. They say nothing else about HIM, or why he is noteworthy. As others have noted, merely being the founder of a company and the husband of someone more noteworthy than himself - as it would seem - is not sufficient. Echoedmyron (talk) 23:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Echoedmyron pretty much sums it up. Being mentioned isn't enough to pass WP:GNG. The articles have to be in depth and talk about him in detail. -DJSasso (talk) 00:45, 15 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 21:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
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