Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bart Bast


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The result was   delete. Shereth 18:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Bart Bast

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I believe this wholly unreferenced BLP fails WP:ATHLETE. Not featured in multiple, reliable sources. The Motorcycle Speedway articles reads:
 * "The major speedway nations in Europe are the United Kingdom, Sweden, Poland and Denmark. These countries run a number of leagues and have regular fixtures throughout the traditional speedway season that runs from March to October. On a smaller scale, competitions are also held in Argentina, Australia, Czech Republic, Italy, Russia, Slovenia and the United States. Some countries' top divisions feature highly-paid star riders. In smaller countries and lower divisions, riders may be part-timers with a second job, or amateurs."

I don't believe Bast is one of the American "highly-paid stars", thus not professional. لenna vecia  15:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  KuyaBriBri Talk 15:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.  KuyaBriBri Talk 15:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete for failing general notability requirements as well as WP:ATHLETE. DreamGuy (talk) 15:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. So somebody doesn't believe something. Did anyone care to look for sources? I added a LATimes ref to the articles. Likely, others can be found.  Power.corrupts (talk) 23:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * He is also mentioned here alongside his peers AMA National Speedway Championship. best Power.corrupts (talk) 23:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * One source (even with supposed likelihood for others) doesn't establish notability. And we don't cite Wikipedia articles as sources. So it's just one source. لenna  vecia  15:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This article was created by a sockpuppet of a banned user, but Power.corrupts has added a reference. Therefore, I will not speedy delete per WP:CSD criteria 5.  I have no opinion otherwise. Jehochman Talk 13:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I found lots of newspaper and website articles about his racing career.--Dbratland (talk) 20:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well done. Which ones would you suggest we look at? Black Kite 21:51, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Los Angeles Times, mostly . I'd use sites like speedwaybikes.com for summaries of seasons and careers if they didn't turn up in the newspaper.  I'm losing no sleep at all over this if he has a day job at the moment.  He won and placed in championships. What is the meaning of the "well done" remark, specifically?--Dbratland (talk) 22:26, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It was a flippant comment. No offence.  Anyway, the point is that he may well have won lots of championships, but none of them appear to notable (they don't have articles), or indeed professional. Black Kite 12:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete The very first Google hit for him gives his occupation as "Carpenter". Therefore not professional, and doesn't pass WP:ATHLETE.  There are admittedly a number of Google hits for him, but mostly in news articles about minor non-professional speedway meetings. Black Kite 21:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:ATHLETE magnius (talk) 23:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
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