Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barts and The London Students' Association


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The result was redirect to Barts and The London School of Medicine and Dentistry. History will be preserved to allow any relevant information merged to the main article. This is closed this way mainly due to a lack of sourcing. recreation with reliable sources is of course acceptable. JoshuaZ 20:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Barts and The London Students' Association
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nn student union. almost every university in the world has one or another, and is non notable. Schools themselves may be notable, but not student unions. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Denny Crane.  05:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete NN union; nothing special, and very non-notable. Jmlk  1  7  06:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * comment Having looked several student union articles ave been nominated AfD, should these not be grouped? --Nate1481(t/c) 11:56, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Students' unions are separate entities from the universities and are notable organisations in their own right. Although BLSA is currently an autonomous part of Queen Mary Students' Union, there's a strong case for treating the medical school unions separately from other sub-divisions. Medical schools are somewhat different to other university faculties as they have a much stronger cohesion and identity and often a separate history. In turn the students' associations for medical schools are significantly more than mere faculty union sub-divisions - they are entities in their own right, often campaign, compete and raise money for charity ("RAG", a highly notable feature, especially amongst medical students - and Barts and The London raises the highest amount per student numbers). BLSA is the merger of two independent unions (The London Hospital Clubs' Union and Students' Union of St Bartholomew's Medical School) with separate histories. Timrollpickering 12:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:N: No claim of notability whatsoever. WP:DIR: Wikipedia is not a student union catalogue--Victor falk 13:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletions.   —Nate1481(t/c) 14:00, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I dont believe student organizations are inherently notable. - No coverage provided in this case Corpx 04:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep the major units in schools are notable, and not just the academic divisions, but the general student union, is one of these divisions, especially at UK universities . In this case the union is sufficiently autonomous that even as it is just for part of the university, it should qualify, as argued above. DGG (talk) 07:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No sourced case for note, and I don't grok the case for "inherent" notability. If secondary and tertiary sources are introduced, will switch. All that matters is meeting WP:ORG - no separate standard necessary. MrZaius  talk  21:07, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment if there's reliable, third-party sources to establish notability, then I'd say keep, it's notable; if not, probably not. I'd like to see the article given a chance to add those, but it still has a bit of time within this AfD. SamBC 03:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge to Barts and The London School of Medicine and Dentistry. Doesn't seem to have notability on its own. Stifle (talk) 14:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.