Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baruch Adonai L'Olam (Maariv)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Baruch Adonai L'Olam (Shacharit). It's best not to take action with major article changes unti the AFD has been closed. Liz Read! Talk! 07:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Baruch Adonai L'Olam (Maariv)

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Delete or merge with Baruch Adonai L'Olam (Shacharit) and rename combined page to Baruch adonai l'olam. Same prayer, but for different prayer services. Any minor liturgical differences can be included on combined article page. Longhornsg (talk) 04:14, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Merge and improve significantly I’m not an expert on siddurim but I do own and use an artscroll. The Baruch said in the evening maariv service is 18 verses meant to replace the Amidah in ancient times (as the article says). The morning shachrit version is exactly the first 4 verses of the 18 line version. So as per OP the article should be merged and mention the 4/18 difference. BUT I am horrified by both articles from a wiki perspective (and these articles are the main ones which appear when you search for the prayer). There’s no structure, seems to use a primary source only, is badly or not at all sourced etc. Someone more versed in the history of the siddur should rewrite the merged version. In the absence of that in the short term I can wikify a merged version (or at least put it on my list to do). So if someone can merge it as per OP (I don’t know how to) I can review for the other issues. Ayenaee (talk) 19:47, 7 November 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:33, 7 November 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: No comments since the last relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:39, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: I have altered the nominator's rationale to fix a formatting/layout error (i.e. a bad link syntax) that was causing afd2 to not do anything. I have no opinion with regard to the article itself.  WC  Quidditch  ☎   ✎  04:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  04:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I have completed a merged rewrite of the two articles in my sandbox. I just need to do final proofreading and link-checking. Both current articles should be a redirected to a new article called "Baruch Adonai le’Olam" (note the "e" between the "l" and the apostrophe in "le’Olam", leaving it out gives incorrect transliteration). If this AfD can be closed with a merge decision, I think I’ve worked out what to do to sort out the creation, redirection, renaming. Ayenaee (talk) 13:14, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * merge works for me as nom. Longhornsg (talk) 17:32, 14 November 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.