Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barumbado


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The result was   no consensus. ( X! ·  talk )  · @837  · 19:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Barumbado

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No apparent coverage in reliable sources or other claim of notability. Fails WP:NF. PC78 (talk) 15:55, 5 July 2009 (UTC) Keep Internet coverage for films from countries like the Philippines is generally very sparse. I'd assume good faith that it stars a notable actor in the main role Robin Padilla who also received a FAMAS nomination. The film was also directed by a director who has won awards at the Metro Manila Film Festival and Filipino Academy of Movie Arts and Sciences Awards. This is generally an indicator that the director is mainstream one within the Philippines and that his films are notable. I say give it time and coverage of countries like Philippines and their cinema on the web will improve over time. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 17:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —PC78 (talk) 16:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.  —Triwbe (talk) 18:39, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Mothballed article with lack of notability. Parkerparked (talk) 19:28, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Have tagged the article for input from Philippines experts. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 01:00, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete fails movie notability standards. Google search found torrents, lots of torrents. Strongest claim found (film notability #3) is that Robin Padilla, the star of the film, was nominated as Best Actor in the Filipino Academy of Movie Arts and Sciences Awards. However, even this claim is only sourced in a blog. No hits on google books and scholar either.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:16, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: The nomination is listed in the film's awards entry in IMDB. --Bluemask (talk) 05:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Just needs sources and an expert on the subject. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 17:07, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep I'm with Dr. Blofeld on this one. See above comment. Film is notable but entry needs work from Filipino cinema buffs. --Junius49 (talk) 00:00, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Starred by a notable Filipino actor and directed by a notable Filipino director.  It's just that information about Philippine movies on pre-Internet era were very, very sparse. Starczamora (talk) 20:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ADD : With what I have gathered, Barumbado (which means "The Bully") is one of Robin Padilla's earliest films where he portrays the lead role, before Bad Boy and Ang Utol Kong Hoodlum (My Hoodlum Brother) that made him popular. Starczamora (talk) 21:05, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Notability is not inherited from either the main actor or the director (if Robin did win this might have been a weak keeper and I'll be arguing for its inclusion per film notabilty#3) and the article should assert this film's independent notability. The director is also not notable enough such that all of his work is automatically considered notable. Please provide reliable sources to back up your claims of independent notability for this film rather than potential non-existent ones.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Like I have said, and you know it as well, that information about the Philippine media during pre-Internet is very sparse. Also, we know how the local entertainment media would report more on the "hype" (on how Padilla would have a relationship with every leading lady, for instance) rather than the "actual" event (the premiere of this movie).  Besides, the movie title has been mentioned on several articles about Robin Padilla here, here, here, which could mean that there is "some amount" of notability.  And yeah, you are looking for proof that Padilla was nominated here. Well, look that this list that I have found. 114.198.145.132 (talk) 20:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Unless you can find a news archive that actually discuss the movie then you might have a case. The three articles that you mentioned here might be good in building up the Robin Padilla article (which is in dire need of references) but not here. A passing mention in a news article (X starred in Y) does not make a subject notable. Besides Webs (web hosting) is a free web hosting site and is not considered as a reliable as they count as personal websites (see here).-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
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