Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Base (Jonghyun album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Mr.Z-man 03:12, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Base (Jonghyun album)

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Album fails WP:GNG. It has not even been released yet. There is no coverage in independent reliable sources. The only link is to the artist's own website. Except in very exceptional circumstances, something cannot become notable before it has occurred. This is much too soon. Shinyang-i (talk) 04:39, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Shinyang-i (talk) 04:39, 3 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete: WP:TOOSOON. Tibbydibby (talk) 00:16, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:TOOSOON Asdklf&#59; (talk) 02:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:50, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached. Relisting comment: Relisted to allow for consideration of sources added to the article.
 * Delete per nom. Possibly could have been speedy deleted. --Random86 (talk) 08:03, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm gonna create the site again in a few days anyway and I'll add some reliable sources and not allkpop like the user right now, so you can keep the site.--46.114.139.225 (talk) 17:49, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. As you can see the article has been updated with reliable sources. And the album will be released in 3 days, some of the songs were already pre-released.--BoikoseLife (talk) 16:08, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Album released, I don't even know why it was a concern.--binvoiler (talk) 21:46, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 17:17, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Despite the addition of sources, there is still no evidence of notability to me. That's why you don't make articles for something that hasn't been released yet or has even just been released.  Notability isn't automatically due every release, but there's a firm belief among too many kpop editors that it is.  Anyway, right now the article has more sources but it still doesn't say much.  It's an album; it's been released (barely); it has some songs; and?  The articles mostly report that it's sold well.  Those articles would have been written no matter what album was on top that week.  They don't say anything about the album.  I don't know, I guess I'm just weary of legions and legions of kpop album and song articles that all basically say "it exists."  Write articles once there's something to really say.  If there's never anything to really say, don't write an article. SIGH. Shinyang-i (talk) 07:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep – This article should not have been created before the album was released. A week ago I would have !voted delete. However, it has now been released and there are some fairly in-depth reviews available, e.g. here and here. It also ranked #2 in the World Music category on Billboard, with a preemptively archived cite to prove it. The artist is notable. So on the merits I have to say keep. – Margin1522 (talk) 08:08, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Just a note, those reviews don't come from reliable sources so cannot be included on Wikipedia or used to establish notability. :( Shinyang-i (talk) 23:41, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michig (talk) 11:52, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Retract nomination. Despite this article still being kind of empty, I think this album now shows evidence of notability.  At the time I nominated it, it hadn't even been released, so of course it wasn't.  None of this should have had to happen.  Just don't make articles for stuff that hasn't been released or occurred yet and don't make the article the day it comes out; wait until it can possibly be notable.  In the future, I think these should be deleted on sight and recreated once they really are possibly notable. Shinyang-i (talk) 11:09, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - Way too notable for deletion as it climbed up at spot 1 of Korea's most important albums chart. FudgeFury  ( talk &#124; sign &#124; contribs ) 20:01, 25 January 2015 (UTC)


 * keep:this article is valid With respect to Terms of Wikipedia (Mrchurang (talk) 18:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC))
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