Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Basic Education High School No. 1 Kamayut


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. slakr \ talk / 09:00, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Basic Education High School No. 1 Kamayut

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Subject lacks independent coverage in reliable sources. Meatsgains (talk) 15:15, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:41, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Myanmar-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:41, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment. Village pump (policy): "(Conclusion) 'Because extant secondary schools often have reliable sources that are concentrated in print and/or local media, a deeper search than normal is needed to attempt to find these sources. At minimum, this search should include some local print media.'""(Summary) 'References to demonstrate notability may be offline, and this must be taken into consideration before bringing a page to AFD.'"We need someone with local language and access to local print media to review this AFD. Jack N. Stock (talk) 16:11, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jenks24 (talk) 05:27, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment People keep overlooking this, from Village pump (policy):
 * Secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist.
 * WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES should be added to the Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions, as it is an accurate statement of the results but promotes circular reasoning.
 * Cherry-picking the bits of a discussion that support your personal view isn't best practice. Exemplo347 (talk) 13:12, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The summary has four points. However, nobody has attempted to apply WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES here, and neither do I see a flood of indiscriminate or excessive nominations. As for "secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist," I don't see any presumption that this school is notable (except the presumption implied by the creation of the article).
 * That leaves us with "references to demonstrate notability may be offline, and this must be taken into consideration before bringing a page to AFD." That's the only part of the conclusion that I can't address. I searched online for references to Basic Education High School No. 1 Kamayut, found some for Basic Education High School No. 2 Kamayut, but not much for Basic Education High School No. 1 Kamayut. There was a little interesting information about educational innovations in Myanmar in a general search, and no hits in Gnews. The problem with this is that I didn't search in the local language. It's kind of like searching for information written in Burmese about a US high school.
 * The article itself doesn't claim any particular notability for the school. I'd like to see something more. As it is, I understand why the article was nominated for deletion. Maybe articles that include no claim to notability could be deleted, but that seems to be precluded by WP:BEFORE. On the other hand, is a search of offline, local print media required as "reasonable steps to search for reliable sources"?
 * As for my personal view, if you are referring to me specifically, I'll say this much: there is no WP article about my high school. Jack N. Stock (talk) 06:39, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:44, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I lean toward delete because the content of the article, beyond the name of the school & it's location, can not be verified by the source provided. Gab4gab (talk) 15:56, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Mild oppose Too soon. The whole coverage of schools in this part of the world is underdeveloped and as we rely on volunteers that have access to the secondary paper documents- written in a script that is difficult to access- I think the failing is ours not one of notability. There is a full category of Basic Education Schools in a single province in MyanMar that in my opinion would be better represented as a list- but if the editor who has developed them prefers to do it as individual articles we should give him space, watch his pages and offer support. ClemRutter (talk) 12:05, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete because of concerns about verifiability, let alone notability. If significant coverage in offline sources is found, then the article can be recreated. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:02, 20 March 2017 (UTC)


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