Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bass Odyssey (album)


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The result was   no consensus. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 06:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Bass Odyssey (album)

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Although the album preformer is relatively notable, I can find little evidence, or sourcing that this particular album is notable. Sedd&sigma;n talk|WikimediaUK 22:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC) 
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 00:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge into Monk Montgomery. As much as I hate to say it, I can't find any reliable independent sources for this album to satisfy WP:GNG. A Google Books search turns up some hits, but none of them contain any in-depth information about the album. General information from the article could be merged into Monk Montgomery, and the Allmusic link can be used as a source. This article could then be redirected to Monk Montgomery. Before that, however, someone please prove me wrong and find a source for this! :) Jafeluv (talk) 13:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete - Sorry Jafeluv, but this seems to be a very obscure album. I can barely find any coverage of it at all, let alone a significant one. For example, a Google search of "Bass Odyssey"+"Monk Montgomery" gives 343 hits, which isn't high at all for an album; not that Google is the end-all, be-all of notability tests (far from it) but it does give you an idea of how unknown it is. --  At am a chat 17:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The album is notable because of the long list of notable musicians it is on, plus the fact that it was released for Motown.   M Montgomery released only three albums, they are each notable because of the personnel and label.  Cosprings (talk) 17:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply - Please state how that satisfies WP:NALBUMS, which states that "All articles on albums, singles or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." I'd argue that considering the vast number of albums that Motown has produced over the years that not every one of them can be notable, and there are many, many compilation albums with notable artists that are themselves non-notable. In fact, just casting aside Wikipedia policies, common sense dictates that if this album really were that big of a deal someone would have made significant mention of it somewhere other than some jazz fan message board or blog. --  At am a chat 17:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete No sources. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:37, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Montgomery I think released the first jazz album by an electric bassist. All three of his records should be notable. I'll have a look 'round for sources but definitely suggest keeping this. I note that NALBUMS in addition to what is quoted above also wisely points out that albums by notable artists have a likelihood of being notable, which is a common sense inference even if we do not have sources to hand.

Typically merges do not, for some reason, import tracklistings, so at the very least that information is being lost in such a course of action. 86.44.18.234 (talk) 18:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * John Clayton, Jr. Big Band Bass, Alfred Publishing: Van Nuys, 1983. 86.44.18.234 (talk) 18:33, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
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