Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bastian Harper


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The result was delete. Keilana | Parlez ici 02:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Bastian Harper

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Contested PROD. The article fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. There are very few reliable sources about him, and they are only about his works. There are only two offline sources which are not referencing something, and the article was previously deleted via WP:PRODBLP. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.  19:44, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  19:47, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete, refs do not establish notabilty; maintenance and CSD tags persistently removed by IPs. Hairhorn (talk) 20:16, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Doesn't appear to have been the subject of coverage in reliable sources. No other indication that he satisfies accepted notability criteria. --Michig (talk) 18:33, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

If i google Bastian Harper i get 2,5 million entrys about him, his last remix "Headbanger" and his new remix "Stand by" feat Abigail Bailey released by Pacha Recordings Ibiza, worlds famoust label for electronic music .Bastian Harper release his music on Kontor Records,the same label like Scooter,Tiesto,ATB,Fedde le Grand,Martin Solveig and so on. His last Single "Im a Freak" (12/2011) reach the #91 of the offical german djcharts top 100. These charts wher offer by Poolposition, the biggest DJ Pool in germany and sign significant what is playing in the clubs.His new single "Lettin go" will be released in over 20 countrys,also Mexico. i include all the sources in my article. i think my first article fulfilled all relevant criteria of wikipedia. i wrote with a a high degree of sensitivity and high quality source to prove the importance and notability of this musician. I have to thank you for listening to me and hope for an positive decision or authorization af my article. thx and best Regards Madlen Schmidt

How many facts you need for importance. other artist dont have any of these sources and be approved. Please dont make a difference between musicians you like and musicians you dont like, harper is a term for good house music. if i read the agreement for biographys of musicians i overfilled teh reqirement to about 85 % thx  — Preceding unsigned comment added by LogoSchmidt (talk • contribs) 14:33, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you read WP:MUSICBIO? The German DJ Charts is a subchart/a regional DJ chart, which is not recognized by the Media Control Charts, so unless his songs chart at the Top 100 Singles or his albums at Top 100 Albums this is irrelevant. The "other musicians exist" argument is vague; you cited 2 of them, Jerry Ropero and Tom Novy, but both biographies fulfill the MUSICBIO criteria. Just because other articles look like if they were less important than others does not mean that they are. Citing other biography is not the best to do, if an article is less notable than other, we will nominate both articles to deletion equally. We don't "approve" articles, we review them and if they fail the WP:N they shouldn't exist. This article is not a biography is just a discography of someone that haven't been recognized as other DJs, and we don't have a rule to keep such texts. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  00:14, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello Hotch! iv read the WP MUSICBIO and i accomplish Point 1.,2.,5., 10.(in spain song "free"). according to WPmusicbio i have to fulfill one of them points. what makes an artist to an artist? his work! for what else should i search? for his weight,for his shoesize? (sorry a little joke) i think its on you to decide and you dont wanna. i think i surrender, cos no matter what i do ,you dont would agree. 12 hours searching sources for nothing. im really frustrated. if somebody will try so hard and everytime its not good enough. i can find better words for his life or his biography, but then you shurly say thats to much private thats too much promotion like german wikipedia says.... im not bad in mind i only try the best i can...have a nice day madlen  — Preceding unsigned comment added by LogoSchmidt (talk • contribs) 12:00, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * False:


 * 1.- "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself" -> All sources are talking about his works (remixes) not him or his life. As I told you this is supposed to be a biography not a discography.
 * 2.- "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart" -> Which country? I found nothing about his albums or songs in the WP:GOODCHARTS.
 * 5.- "Has released two or more albums on a major label or on one of the more important indie labels" -> Excepting Kontor Records (which in the article, for a reason, you redirected it to a non-related Live Nation Entertainment), neither Clubland Records, Next Plateau, Neoteric Records nor Tokabeatz Records appear to be independent record labels.
 * 10.- "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc." I found nothing in the article that suggests this, and even if he did it "If this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article".
 * There's nothing notable in the article to keep it. As you said, you wasted twelve hours to found sources, if there aren't sources, then he fails the minimal criteria of notability, and he shouldn't have an article until he is notable enough for Wikipedia, is simple. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  19:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

i think its so how i say, its on you and you are not interested in....  all i can try is to find some better words for an biography ,sounds more than a biography with more informations and facts and i hope his actually single can place in the media control charts. olease dont delete till i do this... i hope you honour it when somebody fight for his rights... — Preceding unsigned comment added by LogoSchmidt (talk • contribs) 22:30, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

by the way: ist there any other administrator who can decide to keep an article or is it all on you? ;-)joke — Preceding unsigned comment added by LogoSchmidt (talk • contribs) 22:38, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

PS: Did you see that Bastian Harper is one rank lower than Lady Gaga in the Poolposition Charts. Ok its a local charts ,i know.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by LogoSchmidt (talk • contribs) 23:43, 30 March 2012 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)




 * Delete I've tried all the English- and German-language media I can think of (music and mainstream press) but get no references. His German WP article has no references either. Show me references and I'll gladly change my mind. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


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