Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Batons (suit)


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The result was ‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__Keep. Nomination withdrawn. Eluchil404 (talk) 00:15, 20 December 2023 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Batons (suit)

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The articles Cups (suit), Coins (suit), Batons (suit), Swords (suit) were created in 2019, duplicating longstanding content at Suit of cups, Suit of coins, Suit of wands, and Suit of swords, respectively. They should be merged if they have anything new. Dicklyon (talk) 06:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Dicklyon (talk) 06:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This copied-and-pasted rationale is visibly faulty. Batons (suit) is visibly not a duplicate of Suit of wands.  Batons (suit)/Suit of batons is (it says) about playing cards and Suit of wands is (it says) about Tarot cards. Uncle G (talk) 09:26, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep but do not merge. These are two distinct topics. Although occultists based their suits on those of the Italian pattern of playing cards, they broke away over 200 years ago to produce their own packs purely for cartomantic purposes. So Batons (suit) is specifically about the playing cards, whereas the one on the suit of wands is purely about cartomantic cards. They have different designs and uses with almost no crossover. The same is true of cups and goblets, coins and pentacles, etc. We have been slowly untangling the mess caused by combining them, but there is more to do. I agree the names need sorting out and perhaps they could be named Foo (suit) or we could make it clear by calling them e.g. Foo (playing card suit) and Foo (cartomantic suit). HTH. Bermicourt (talk) 16:58, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


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