Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Alkali Creek (1865)


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The result was Delete. Randykitty (talk) 11:25, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Battle of Alkali Creek (1865)

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This "battle of alkali creek" seems to be the invented name for a minor skirmish during a larger campaign. It was, contrary to what the infobox suggests, not a battle between 1,500 soldiers and civilians on one side, and 300 warriors on the other side; it was a group of Native Americans stealing the horses, a small group of soldiers (7) following them, and 3 of those 7 being killed. Another group of 3 soldiesr saw 2 of them being killed, and so on. This is not a "battle", this is a series of incidents, happening all the time during war and hardly worthy of being noted down, hence the lack of sources about it (the only source being a local history book which has reprinted soldiers' diaries). As the article Powder River Expedition (1865) makes clear, there were similar skirmishes the next day, again with a few casulaties, and this continued over the next week. Fram (talk) 08:10, 17 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge into Powder River Expedition (1865). It's not that these engagements didn't occur. Its a question of whether or not there's sufficient sourcing and content to warrant a separate article.  I don't think this represents WP:OR.  The engagement is already covered in the primary article, so a merge seems the right answer (although the tangible result is the same). --Mike Cline (talk) 13:26, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:35, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:35, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete. No mention of this "battle" anywhere other than in Wikipedia, the proverbial "forest". Get rid of this fallen "tree" because nobody heard (of) it. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:51, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D u s t i *Let's talk!* 00:32, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Merge and redirect to Powder River Expedition (1865). Nothing in the nomination suggests that the content doesn't belong there.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * What's the point? The redirect will get zero real hits, since it is an invented name. Merging it? The information is already there, under the same invented name by the same editor. So even keeping this for attribution reasons isn't necessary, it is already attributed to him or her. Fram (talk) 14:05, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 01:50, 2 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete, since the information need not be merged. Zero secondary sources appear to cover this topic; it's just the primary sources such as diaries.  Nyttend (talk) 16:55, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete assuming nominator is correct that no sources use this term. Why do people need to invent battles when there are so many without articles? &mdash;innotata 07:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
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