Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Amer


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The result was delete Materialscientist (talk) 07:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Battle of Amer

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Unsourced, and not mentioned in the long-established article for the victorious commander Shah Alam II. Was PRODded, then dePRODded without any explanation (by an editor with 6 edits to their name, created yesterday). It is possible that we already have an article on this major battle under a different title, in which case this needs to be redirected. It is also possible that it never took place. Pam D  09:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  Pam  D  09:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  Pam  D  09:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  Pam  D  09:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as WP:HOAX, no RS provided and the enormous casualty figures are not credible. Several of the supposed British commanders weren't even in India in 1761. Mztourist (talk) 10:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as WP:HOAX based on assertions in the infobox. "Mughal Empire Make a Independent Kingdom": The Mughal Empire's heyday was in the 17th century, and by 1761, the claimed year of this battle, it had long been in decline. "Maratha Empire Not Attack on Delhi After this Battle": It seems the Maratha Empire retook Delhi in 1771, after 1761. "Ahmad Shah Abdali Successfuly Won Multan": Per Multan, Abdali (a.k.a Ahmad Shah Durrani) took Multan in 1752 and retook it from the Marathas in 1760, not 1761. Besides that, it seems strange that the Amer article would mention nothing in its history section about an eponymous battle. Largoplazo (talk) 10:54, 13 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as WP:HOAX, the dates and people don't align. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:04, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment According to the great Indian historian William Dalrymple, Shah Alam was in fact in this area on 21 June 1761. However, he does not mention a battle, and the Alam's location is a 100 or so miles east of the purported battle location. But the article states it was against the "army" of Alam so it could have been a contingent. It might contain be a kernel of truth, like a small battle that lives large in local legend, but without sourcing impossible to say. -- Green  C  23:38, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * OTOH looking at the infobox it is clearly bogus. But impressive they got the Shah's location for that date so close. -- Green  C  23:42, 13 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Srnec (talk) 16:09, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete -- The creator has had great fun creating an infobox. His original article text was somewhat fuller than the present stub, but the whole thing lacks any sources; and I strongly suspect a HOAX.  If WP:RS are added before closure of this AFD is due, I will hapily reconsider my view.  Currently, it looks like WP:OR or invention.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:35, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * They originally copy-pasted material from Third Battle of Panipat which was a large and important battle in 1761, but in January. Looking increasingly like a hoax, copied content from another famous battle and given a fictitious name and date. -- Green  C  17:13, 18 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NPOV and WP:RS. --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 16:39, 18 October 2020 (UTC)


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