Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Az Zawiyah


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The result was KEEP. postdlf (talk) 19:12, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Az Zawiyah

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There was some fighting around the city, but no google news sources use the term "Battle of Az Zawiyah". There wasn't a notable "battle" there. In fact, none of the five sources given in the article mention Az Zawiyah. Maybe sources will cover the fighting here in more detail when more information becomes available, but right now this is jumping the gun. Pontificalibus (talk) 11:15, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note The page was created by a user banned for disruptive editing. See Sockpuppet investigations/Vidboy10 --Pontificalibus (talk) 14:22, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say keep, or possibly merge into the main 2011 Libyan uprising article. -- 92.4.54.146 (talk) 12:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete this title, which does not appear to be used. Merge any relevant material into the 2011 Libyan uprising article.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:45, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, merge or maybe rename to Az Zawiyah clashes since that term is being used by mainstream media and the event is significant since it's been mentioned by both sides in the media hundreds of times in the past two days.EkoGraf (talk) 14:12, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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 * Comment. Are there sources on this that pass WP:V and WP:RS? Because even if the event is notable, if none of the information can be verified, the page must be deleted. Abductive  (reasoning) 18:46, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, the information can better be represented in the course of an article about the uprisings or their timeline. 79.216.214.26 (talk) 03:56, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Currently this topic lacks "signfificant independent coverage" under WP:GNG. As such merge the little cited information to a parent article like 2011 Libyan uprising and ditch the rest. Anotherclown (talk) 08:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't delete, but rather merge the contents into the timeline article and redirect this there. -- 92.4.116.101 (talk) 12:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename, I think we should just rename it to Skirmish of Az Zawiyah. Cowik (talk) 20:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, various articles that at least say 'heavy fighting' or else say 'bloody battle', 'brutal battle', or similar terms:    140.247.244.186 (talk) 23:04, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect - since some believe that the event passes WP:GNG, and others do not, but the larger event which it is related to has it should be merged into 2011 Libyan uprising. If additional resources and content is created regarding this event, it can be redirected per WP:SPINOUT. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:42, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - Too much information has been removed by wikipedia simple for the sake of brevity or whatever, there's no good reason to delete this page. Swalgal (talk) 00:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, should be incorporated into main coverage
 * Delete, nothing special here. We can't just create separate articles for every single event in the uprising. I also don't think that these events can be defined as a battle.  R a f y  talk 10:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * NOTE Everybody, just to make a note, government troops started a counter-attack against the city today and street fighting has been reported with 10 loyalist soldiers killed. This is looking more and more lika a real battle. Source here — Preceding unsigned comment added by EkoGraf (talk • contribs) 21:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, or rename, or at least wait. Enough reliable sources have been provided. The only suspicious original research is the title "Battle of ...". Renaming it can fix this problem. At least please wait for several days to see whether the further development of this event can justify this article. --Pengyanan (talk) 02:24, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, There was a six hour fight overnight, so the battle title is justified in my opinion.  Red1530 (talk) 16:35, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems that Gaddafi really want to take back this city. It was under attack yesterday, and is also today, again. The title seems justified to me, be I won't be against if it's renamed.Kormin (talk) 18:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or rename, as per other rationales. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:01, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep As of today (March 1st) there was a six hour (battle?) to retake the city by pro Gaddafi government forces this is a battle as they (Anti-gaddafi forces) control the city. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, obviously now. — Nightstallion 16:40, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, it is on the television Sky News as I write. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 17:10, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Certainly a real battle. More important than umpteen articles about military happenings involving western forces that have not been nominated for deletion. Mowsbury (talk) 17:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Aris Katsaris (talk) 21:40, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep There was clearly a battle in az-Zawiya between rebel forces and Gaddafi's loyalists as cited by the international media. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Although I should add it should be renamed ""to Battle of az-Zawiya" for MoS purposes. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep referred to as battle in news sources Neumannk (talk) 00:04, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep There was quite clearly a battle in Az Zawiya. Every now and again I keep looking at BBC News 24 to see how things are kicking off in Libya and they keep referring to a 'battle' in Az Zawiya. It is the latest topic, regarding the Libyan uprising. If people want to rename the article "Conflict in Az Zawiya" then I have no objections. IJA (talk) 18:08, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - notable military engagement. I don't see any particular recentism issues here. Robofish (talk) 18:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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