Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Jiameng Pass


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The result was delete. Especially given the comment from an editor who can check sources in Mandarin. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 16:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Battle of Jiameng Pass

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There are insufficient reliable third party sources with substantial coverage to create a notable article that would pass WP:GNG and WP:NOTPLOT. Events are already proportionately described in other articles about the fiction itself. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:48, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Weak delete. If there are sources they are likely in Chinese and beyond the ability of most of us to judge. For now, given what I see (which is next to nothing), per WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES, I can't recommend keeping this, as it fails WP:NFICTION. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:52, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - I would delete it. The Battle of Jiameng Pass is just a fictional battle in Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Unless we can get a hand from a Chinese speaking users to help us with a sources..? GizzyCatBella  🍁  12:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Review Sources - I will check the sources because I can speak and read Mandarin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdub 604 (talk • contribs) 16:17, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - The 2 sources in the article for Ma Chao's defection to Zhang Lu under Historicity are in the Records of The 3 Kingdoms volume 36. The translation of the Ma Chao section of the record, are correct. So, the 2 sources are both good. But, there are no sources for the actual battle, background, and Aftermath. Even though both of the sources are correct, there just aren't enough sources for the article. I say that this article needs to be deleted. --Bdub 604 (talk) 18:12, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


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