Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Kabul (2021)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) AINH (talk) 13:14, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Battle of Kabul (2021)

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WP:CRYSTAL. According to the latest news, there ain't even a battle but a “peaceful transfer” of the city AINH (talk) 10:37, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose: No reason to delete the entire article. As per some sources, there was/is fighting in the outskirts of the city, and even if the city is mostly just surrendered, we can move the article to "Fall of Kabul" or "Surrender of Kabul". This is major event with a lot of coverage; more than enough reason for a separate article. Applodion (talk) 10:46, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Applodion. The final nail in the coffin. Just rename it to Fall to Kabul. --Saqib (talk) 10:48, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:48, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:48, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose per above Nitesh003 (talk) 10:51, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose because it's a notable event. It may need to be renamed, but certainly not deleted. Jim Michael (talk) 10:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Applodion. We just need to rename it to the Fall of Kabul (2021). ArabMan719 (talk) 10:54, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: Err with caution, there is another mirror article (Surrender of Kabul) that just sprung up. It seems everyone and their mother is trying to get credit for the creation. Curbon7 (talk) 11:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose I don't see the need to remove since this is a very notable ongoing event which people will want to know what is happening, the bbc are reporting some parts of kabul are having firefight, the article should be kept.


 * Oppose as per everyone else - it's definitely a notable event, there's already a ton that's been written about what's happened so far and we can reasonably except there to be tons more written as further developments come in (and as people have time to analyse things). I'd support the change in title to Fall of Kabul as per everyone else, too. NHCLS (talk) 11:19, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose I don't see the need to remove since this is a very notable ongoing event which people will want to know what is happening, the bbc are reporting some parts of kabul are having firefight, the article should be kept.Yaboi1523 (talk) 12:20, 15 August 2021 (BST)


 * Strongly Oppose Come on, is it necessary to always do an AfD on recent event articles? This is clearly underway and will likely be featured on the headline section on the front page. This is a no-brainer. --AsianHippie (talk) 11:27, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose as others have said, the name is incorrect, not the content. 5225C (talk &bull; contributions) 11:41, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: WP:TOOSOON. ― Tartan357  Talk 11:41, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose Events are unfloding and as some people pointed out skirmishes have taken place Jibran1998 (talk) 11:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose: No reason to delete the entire article.Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 11:53, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Strongly Oppose: This article is as much as relevant as Fall of Kabul (2001) and Fall of Saigon, and it certainly should be kept. —Sundostund (talk) 11:59, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's a misnomer. Rename to Fall of Kabul (2021). Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:07, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose -- we have articles on small battles with hundreds of combattants involved in, for example, the US Civil War. Certainly the battle to take the capital of Afghanistan after a 20 year war is notable, as many sources show. N2e (talk) 12:09, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose because it's a notable event. --Whiteguru (talk) 12:26, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose - It's a key event in the Afghan War, and should it develop peacefully it can easily be renamed to "Fall of Kabul", per what some editors have already proposed. Goodposts (talk) 12:29, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - It is an important event and strongly relevant as Fall of Saigon. Chandan Kanti Paul (talk))
 * Oppose but rename to "Fall of Kabul" as the Taliban faced no resistance whatsoever so far. CoryGlee (talk) 12:50, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Super duper strong oppose, stronger than gravitational attraction of TON 618 Just why would you delete it? Makes zero sense. 82.28.152.167 (talk) 13:03, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose but rename to Capture of Kabul. There's no correct WP:COMMONNAME at this point, we don't have academic sources. --► Sincerely:  Sola virum  13:12, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.