Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Porta Littoria


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  10:20, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Battle of Porta Littoria

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Another poorly sourced attempt to rehabilitate the image of the Italian army during the end of the second world war. I could find no mention of the battle that according to the creator was an Italien Victory. This is second article that the creator has tried to make us believe that a handful of Italians saw off a legion of French soldiers and finally surrendered to the Americans who let them march out with their heads held high and the honours of war. Dom from Paris (talk) 18:31, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 18:32, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 18:32, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 18:32, 24 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete with no prejudice against recreation or rehabilitation by a more honest editor. The creator is a tendentious editor with a strong anti-French bias, and the article itself is a coatrack-ish. As-is, the article is only doing us harm. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 23:15, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Tag for improvement -- This does not read like a hoax to me. It is certainly a poor article, but AFD is not a legitimate means of forcing improvement.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Noone is suggesting that it is a hoax but that the information included is not backed up by sources and that nothing suggests that this is worthy of an article. Nothing else was found in a before search and this editor has a history of creating articles with false information in them and is a tendentious editor. If I had found anything to show this event was reported elsewhere I would have tagged for improvement. Dom from Paris (talk) 16:59, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment For some reason we have two articles on this campaign; Second Battle of the Alps and Battle of Authion, which probably should be merged. That the Germans and Italians did hold off the French is beyond question. As is the fact that the Italian Army was still able to inflict defeats on the French and Americans in 1945. (And that there apparently remains some animosity between the French and Italians that stems from the events of June 1940.) The question is whether this action is worthy of its own article per WP:CONTENTFORK ie is worthy of its own article.  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  18:52, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Authion was but one episode in the fighting that took place all along the Western Alps in 1944–45. Srnec (talk) 19:49, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * If that's the way the want to organise them.  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  19:30, 28 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as non-notable. I cannot find enough sources in any language, searching both Porta Littoria and La Thuile. Only RSI: Forze armate della Repubblica Sociale Italiana, a minutely-detailed three-volume history of the armed forces of an ephemeral puppet state that fought in a secondary theatre seems to have anything. (I can't see it on Google, but I can't entirely trust it either, since the publisher—Albertelli—is given to militaria of widely varying quality, from the lurid to the scholarly). Coverage of this "battle" does not rise to the level of notability independent of the wider campaign it was a part of (the Second Battle of the Alps). If it were better sourced I'd say merge. Srnec (talk) 02:19, 30 October 2018 (UTC)


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