Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Shostka


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 19:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC)


 * How do I get a draft of the article? SavageBWiki (talk) 22:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Battle of Shostka

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Obvious fake. Not a single source supports the article title - that there was or is a "Battle of Shostka". Iconicos (talk) 19:01, 26 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Noting: Article was previously requested for speedy deletion by nominator,, which was procedural contested by myself, . Elijahandskip (talk) 19:11, 26 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2022 March 26.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 19:13, 26 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete as the current sources do not indicate a battle took place. If any sources are found to indicate a battle took place, please add them to the article, and this will switch to a Keep. Elijahandskip (talk) 19:14, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Military, Russia,  and Ukraine.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:15, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree that the current references do not indicate that a battle took place. Regards. Mbilalwiki (talk) 19:27, 26 March 2022 (UTC)


 * It is not famous battle, but there is proof that there was a battle in Shostka and it is on the Template:Russo-Ukrainian War detailed map that it is under Russian control. SavageBWiki (talk) 19:42, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * if you have WP:RS that indicate that a battle happened at Shostka, please list it here. The current references do not seem to support this. - Ljleppan (talk) 19:55, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The map is based on bad info. There is clear evidence that the city is under Ukrainian control. And I have seen no evidence that the Russians hold it, appart from the maps, which are apparently not based on any available information.
 * https://www.newsweek.com/meet-abandoned-cats-living-bomb-shelter-ukraine-1690849 Wolf359Locutus (talk) 18:09, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete No sources confirming, not even in the article itself, that a battle actually took place. EkoGraf (talk) 19:46, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: I was going to merge it anyways. Almost no sources exist, and certainly none from non-involved entities. Curbon7 (talk) 20:36, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, merge the few sentences and sources that are available to Northeastern Ukraine offensive. EkoGraf (talk) 15:03, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per everything above. ShuffleboardJerk (talk) 23:18, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:BASIC. If it even happened it is WP:TOOSOON. Mztourist (talk) 12:29, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete there was never a battle of Shostka, at least not the kind described in this article. May also fail WP:OR. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 14:32, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment: New sources suggest that there had been fighting at the Shostka outskirts. Together with the aerial attacks one could see this as a "battle of Shostka", and the article seems significantly improved now. Though there is some discussion on the article's talk page about who is actually in control of the city, I would revoke the AfD, but I don't know if this is possible according to enwiki procedures, so thank you for helping me with this.--Iconicos (talk) 10:44, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Unless there are sources confirming an actual battle for the town took place, regardless of our personal views of the situation, everything else is considered unsourced original research per Wikipedia guidelines. One skirmish in a village outside the town doesn't equal to a "Battle of Shostkha", unless verifiable by reliable sources. EkoGraf (talk) 17:36, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Even if there was actual fighting, it has to conform to our notability guidelines, which this does not. Curbon7 (talk) 22:28, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * That too. Non-notable event not reported on by mainstream RS. EkoGraf (talk) 23:03, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete No sources or references indicate that the battle actually took place. Foodie Soul (talk) 15:15, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Snow Delete Clear consensus is present here, no need to go further. I agree with everything that has been already stated. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:52, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.