Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Spearhead


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:35, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Spearhead

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The two sources are both personal websites, not WP:RS; a google search for " "battle of spearhead" 1545  -"under john dudley" -"took place between the French"  " produces just one hit, which is a translated wiki - ie the many Ghits all appear to be copies of the same two sources, or of two wikipedia articles, this one and Edward Clinton, 1st Earl of Lincoln. If you omit the date, you get some wargaming sites but again no Tudor battle. I suspect that it is a mistake for "Battle of the Solent" (which was in 1545), but can't find anything to confirm this. This near-orphan article does not seem to be an asset to Wikipedia. Pam D  07:44, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Some detective work at Talk:Battle of Spearhead. Pam  D  08:16, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 09:29, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Comment I agree that this needs to be looked at carefully. There is now extensive discussion at Talk:Battle of Spearhead and I think this should be left to run for a few days to see what comes up. I think a merge might then be best (although really only a category or two from this would be taken), with a redirect to Battle of the Solent. However, more info may turn up on the discussion page, so I think we shouldn't jump the gun and merge it yet. Boleyn (talk) 11:53, 13 August 2011 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:08, 20 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Because none of these sources is reliable, there is no content to merge, and the title is not useful as a redirect because a) the battle is only rarely referred to as the "Battle of Spithead" anyway but mostly b) the article title is not "Battle of Spithead" - "Battle of Spearhead" is nonsense. Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 02:02, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete I have looked in RS and am satisfied that there was no separate Battle of Spearhead, and the Battle of Spithead is the one referred to. Although there are possible routes by which Spithead might have transmuted into Spearhead there is no reliable source suggesting that it was anything other than a mistake by one author of a personal website and I agree with the logic set out by Roscelese. --AJHingston (talk) 08:43, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete (from article's creator) The only thing I really thought worth merging was the categories, but I've added the only relevant misisng one to Battle of the Solent. Boleyn (talk) 14:02, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.