Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Suran


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The result was Snow delete. This was clearly going to be deleted, and in deciding to cut it short rather than waiting the full week I was swayed by the fact that the expression "Battle of Suran", other than on Wikipedia and Wikipedia mirrors, seems to appear only in relation to games with a fictitious battle of that name, e.g. wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/Hattem_Mutiny, www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/412/wikis/orcashir, z13.invisionfree.com/TiMorrowind/ar/t14.htm. It does not seem to be a recognised name for a real battle. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:25, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Suran

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As with The Battle of Kesab (by the same author), this article provides no sources, and, more importantly, no evidence that this is considered by reliable sources to be a distinct, noteworthy battle per WP:EVENT. Just because fighting occurs in an area does not mean that we can ourselves declare it a distinct battle absent reliable sources. We need to wait and see if reliable sources discuss this before creating the article. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:16, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Wikipedia is not a primary source, so unless and until someone else calls it that, repeatedly, then we are contributing to the usage of the term, not documenting it. I couldn't find a single news source that uses that term for whatever is happening there. I won't even recommend a redirect to one of the Syrian Civil War articles because it's not even clear what's happening. WP:NOTNEWS and WP:OR at best. § FreeRangeFrog croak 02:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


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