Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Vinland (1003)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Vinland. TigerShark (talk) 01:47, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Battle of Vinland (1003)

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unsourced - can't immediately find any other sources for it - looks entirely speculative Unbh (talk) 10:15, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military,  and Canada. Unbh (talk) 10:15, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The fi.wp article (also up for deletion) has a reference to Ingstad, Helge & Ingstad, Anne Stine's book The Viking discovery of America – the excavation of a Norse settlement in L'Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland (ISBN 0816047162), but a Google Books search doesn't reveal anything too clear about a battle. Other than that, I did find a Government of Canada website that says c. 1000: The Vikings attacked natives, killing eight of the people they called Skraelings, probably in Labrador. The natives counter-attacked, and Thorvald, the Viking chief, was killed. A few years later, a Viking colony, possibly in Newfoundland, repulsed a Skraeling attack. The settlement was abandoned, however, a few months later. which isn't a lot to go by and I'm not sure where they sourced that from. That makes me lean delete unless better sourced materialize. As far as alternatives for deletion go, I'm not convinced there's anything to even merge here. Both Thorvald Eiriksson and Saga of the Greenlanders already have pretty much everything said in this article. -Ljleppan (talk) 10:54, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge with Vinland: Not independently notable from the main article, fails WP:GNG. Merge to there. Curbon7 (talk) 13:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Not sure there is anything to merge that is not already in Vinland. Ljleppan (talk) 14:26, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Just redirect to Vinland. The only primary material on this is Norse sagas, which are fully covered in that article, together with the archaeological results from L'Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland (which tell us nothing of battles).  This is another case of a WP-editor who has fallen in love with using battle-boxes, and does so inappropriately, creating wholly unnecessary articles in order to do so.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:41, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. There was a 2016 AfD for this page under its previous name, but it was speedily deleted. I suspect it was never properly filed: Articles for deletion/Battle of L'Anse aux Meadows. The nominator had previously PRODded the page, claiming it was a hoax. pburka (talk) 19:03, 16 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.