Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Waddan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. There's good support for a merge to "the main article" which I assume to be either Caravan raids or Battle of Badr, but given that nobody's specified I'm not sure everyone's on the same page - and there's fair support for keeping the article, too, so I'm not going to close this as a definite "merge". The way forward is to either source and expand this article, or consider merging it to one of the other two articles, I think.~ mazca  talk 19:55, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Waddan

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Article is titled "Battle of Waddan". Only one source is given and that one calls this a raid. So the whole subject can be included in "caravan raids". The little that merits inclusion about the incident in an encyclopedia is already in "caravan raids". Hence proposing deletion Raziman T V (talk) 20:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose - 14,500 Google hits for "Battle of Waddan" clearly indicates notability and identification of this incident as a seperate entity. Faults in the article should be repaired with additional sources, not with deletion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge with the main article. The part of the article that talk directly about the "Battle of Waddan" is small compared to the parts that talk about other related subjects and give background and context. If we merged, the reader will be able to understand the context better. Sole Soul (talk) 22:01, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge with main articlea and copyedit. Cathar11 (talk) 22:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge into the main article and expand that article's section about the battle. Laurinavicius (talk) 00:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: The talk pages of the four WikiProjects listed as having jurisdiction on this article (Islam, Muslim history, Military history and Saudi Arabia) have been notified about this AfD Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:43, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  —AustralianRupert (talk) 21:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment : I have gone through another cleanup of Caravan raids and have copied more portions of this article there. I have left the Abu Sufyan part -- Raziman T V (talk) 11:38, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 22:44, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep : Although it is probably better described as a raid rather than a battle, I see no reason why it cannot have its article if it is notable in its own right. Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:51, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * delete per nom, no rs--123.237.192.202 (talk) 22:39, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Merge into the main article; there aren't enough sources for it to have its own article. — MC10 ( T • C • GB •[ L ]• EM )  03:37, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep we may lack sources in English, but if the claim "the first battle involving Muslim forces and the Prophet Muhammad." is correct, then I'm happy to wait for arabic sources.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  13:40, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What is the "main article"? – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.