Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Wolf 359 (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to The Best of Both Worlds (Star Trek: The Next Generation). RL0919 (talk) 22:06, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Battle of Wolf 359
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Article is almost entirely in-universe. No evidence that this fictional battle has attracted significant attention from third-party sources beyond those devoted to covering Star Trek-related material. DonIago (talk) 21:43, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep The article is currently quite short and it is easy to find more coverage such as this, which recounts the special requirements of the creation of this major battle.  Multiple works of astronomy include details of the matter in their coverage of the real star system, e.g. Observing the Nearest Stars, David Levy's Guide to Variable Stars.  The nomination is therefore false and contrary to our policies WP:ATD, WP:BEFORE and WP:PRESERVE. Andrew D. (talk) 23:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * If it's easy to find sources then it should be easy enough to improve the article to mention such, at which point I'd be happy to reconsider. The article itself has been tagged with no improvement for over a year, though, so the evident assumption of bad faith against me seems unwarranted. Furthermore, when I reviewed the links you provided the mentions that I saw seemed rather token. DonIago (talk) 04:34, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:36, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 08:03, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 08:03, 31 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. Considering this featured in a notable spinoff - Star Trek: Borg - as well as the sheer number of google-books and google-news hits I see for this which have quite some length - it is hard to argue that this Borg/Starfleet battle that resulted in the (fictional) destruction of 39 capital ships and the death of 11,000 men is not notable. I would however question the present title, as Wolf 359 is a real star (and quite nearby to us), and it is quite possible that there is a better know real world Battle of Wolf 359 (that we just don't know about here, but is known on a galactic scale) - it might be prudent for the title to convey this is fictional/Startrek in some way. Icewhiz (talk) 08:09, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * FWIW, almost all of the Google hits that I saw (your search may have been more comprehensive than my own) were to Star Trek-related sites or sites that reviewed Star Trek-related material. I had trouble finding sources that discussed the battle beyond "this happened in an episode of TNG", which to my mind doesn't really establish notability...hence the AfD. Even "it was one of the most devastating battles to occur in Star Trek to that point, or since" would do more to establish notability, to my mind. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 14:38, 31 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to The Best of Both Worlds (Star Trek: The Next Generation). Obsessive fancruft. All of the out-of-universe references are trivial mere-mentions, nothing in depth about this being any kind of cultural item. There is nothing here that would not be a paragraph at the parent article. Per Category:Star Trek wars and battles most of these are, or have been, redirected off to their parent episode article. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 17:53, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to The Best of Both Worlds (Star Trek: The Next Generation). Wikipedia is not a fan Wiki like Memory Alpha, which discusses Star Trek events like Wolf 359 from an in-universe perspective.TH1980 (talk) 02:56, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Fountains of Bryn Mawr and TH1980. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:11, 3 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.